[Talk] Getting people involved in FLUX/volunteering in general

[Terry Richards]

Samuel Greenfeld wrote:

> I'm sorry if I've been going off on a tangent from the main group, and 
> I kind of knew the channel's status in relation to the group, but its 
> hard to say what kind of friendship I had with him anyway.  While I 
> knew the person in question reasonably well for someone I only knew 
> online, I do not have any proof to back up any of the claims I have 
> heard from him over the years (as someone mentioned, special ops; also 
> a board member of a few firms, British knighthood, etc.).
>
> But I do know that he has been involved in several arguments which 
> eventually led to project forks, one of which he now leads with I'm 
> not certain how much (if any) of the few people that originally 
> followed him (some of which have since returned to the previous 
> project). Personally, I just wish they all got along.
>
> That being said; I may pursue this a bit, largely out of principal, 
> but I'm not going to just be the only one idling in a channel that 
> used to have 5-6 people at least present in spirit at any given time.  
> If we do get it back or move elsewhere, we likely should petition for 
> at least some marginal channel support from the group; I think one of 
> the mistakes that we made that other LUGs did not is to formally let 
> the Freenode network people know of a few channel contacts.
>
> I think some of the problem is that a lot of people do not realize how 
> much goes into IRC politics; I fail to do so often as well.  Perhaps 
> it is a lesson learned on how the daemon system 
> (nickserv/chanserv/etc.) was supposed to keep everyone from playing 
> games like this; but people on IRC a lot like me still need to be kept 
> on their toes.
>
i don't believe there should be officials for a lug. i think a lug can 
operate under it's own steam so to speak. folks who have the interest 
can kick in what they wish. i believe linux and open source is a strong 
enough platform to not need a centralized authority. in fact i believe 
that "officials" hinder progress more than anything. i think it 
interferes with those who don't want to be led around by the nose and 
and leaves too much up to just a handful of people who are then leaned 
against too much.

i am interested in what these politics are, can you be more specific? 
and how do you start a channel without it being formalized and be able 
to maintain it?

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