[Talk] Re: [Jobs] [JOB] RoR Developers (4), Orlando, FL | 50-85k

Lawrence Kagan talk@flux.org
Wed, 30 Aug 2006 21:28:06 -0400


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On Mon, 2006-08-28 at 21:28 -0400, Nick Simicich wrote:

> On Mon, 2006-08-28 at 13:46, Larry Kagan wrote:
> > Oh yeah and "... at least 2 years experience with Ruby on Rails ..."  
> > 
> > >>From wikipedia -- "Ruby on Rails was extracted by David Heinemeier
> > Hansson from his work on Basecamp, a project-management tool by
> > 37signals.[1] It was first released to the public in July 2004." 
> 
> This is what you get for quoting out of context 

What is what I get?  

> - I presume that they
> want people with two years experience in all that stuff, not just in
> RoR.

So since you presume, you MUST be correct?  You have the option of
communicating your ideas without being condescending to your peers.
Please use that option.

> 
> > How quickly we forget the mistakes of the dot-com bubble burst.
> > 
> > Larry
> > 
> > On Mon, 2006-08-28 at 13:35 -0400, Larry Kagan wrote:
> > > Hmmm, 30" displays at the workstations.... using RoR (not scalable yet)
> > > for online advertising .  They're sure starting off making some really
> > > good business decisions.  
> > > 
> > > Those poor venture capitalists......
> > > 
> > > Larry
> > > 
> > > On Sat, 2006-08-26 at 15:22 -0500, Beau Gould wrote:
> > > > RoR Developers (4), Orlando, FL | 50-85k | Relo OK 
> > > > 
> > > > Venture backed online advertising startup seeking multiple Ruby on Rails
> > > > Developers of varying skill levels. Ideal candidates enjoy a fast-paced,
> > > > but laid back and creative environment. 
> > > > 
> > > > Salary range from 50-85k depending on experience. Great culture, 401(k)
> > > > with matching, premium health plan, kick ass workstations with 30"
> > > > displays, and stock options.  Local candidates are preferred; however,
> > > > all will be considered. Relocation OK.
> > > > 
> > > > Candidates should have at least 2 years experience with Ruby on Rails,
> > > > MySQL, OOP, test-driven development, relational database design and
> > > > basic Linux. Experience with PHP, AJAX or XHTML/CSS would be ideal, but
> > > > is not required. Candidates should also have experience writing
> > > > functional and technical specifications and be good communicators. Above
> > > > all else - be different and passionate about what you do.
> > > > 
> > > > If you are interested in this position, please submit your resume,
> > > > salary requirements, and a paragraph (or two) highlighting your
> > > > skills/experience as it pertains to this job to
> > > > beau@open-source-staffing.com 
> > > > 
> > > > Ruby / Ruby on Rails Jobs: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rubyrailsjobs
> > > > 
> > > > Thank you,
> > > > Beau J. Gould
> > > >  
> > > > Open Source Staffing
> > > > www.open-source-staffing.com
> > > > beau@open-source-staffing.com
> > > > 
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On Mon, 2006-08-28 at 21:28 -0400, Nick Simicich wrote:
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">On Mon, 2006-08-28 at 13:46, Larry Kagan wrote:</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; Oh yeah and &quot;... at least 2 years experience with Ruby on Rails ...&quot;  </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; &gt;&gt;From wikipedia -- &quot;Ruby on Rails was extracted by David Heinemeier</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; Hansson from his work on Basecamp, a project-management tool by</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; 37signals.[1] It was first released to the public in July 2004.&quot; </FONT>

<FONT COLOR="#000000">This is what you get for quoting out of context </FONT>
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What is what I get?&nbsp; 
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">- I presume that they</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">want people with two years experience in all that stuff, not just in</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">RoR.</FONT>
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So since you presume, you MUST be correct?&nbsp; You have the option of communicating your ideas without being condescending to your peers.&nbsp; Please use that option.
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; How quickly we forget the mistakes of the dot-com bubble burst.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; Larry</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; On Mon, 2006-08-28 at 13:35 -0400, Larry Kagan wrote:</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; &gt; Hmmm, 30&quot; displays at the workstations.... using RoR (not scalable yet)</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; &gt; for online advertising .  They're sure starting off making some really</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; &gt; good business decisions.  </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; &gt; </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; &gt; Those poor venture capitalists......</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; &gt; </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; &gt; Larry</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; &gt; </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; &gt; On Sat, 2006-08-26 at 15:22 -0500, Beau Gould wrote:</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; &gt; &gt; RoR Developers (4), Orlando, FL | 50-85k | Relo OK </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; &gt; &gt; </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; &gt; &gt; Venture backed online advertising startup seeking multiple Ruby on Rails</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; &gt; &gt; Developers of varying skill levels. Ideal candidates enjoy a fast-paced,</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; &gt; &gt; but laid back and creative environment. </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; &gt; &gt; </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; &gt; &gt; Salary range from 50-85k depending on experience. Great culture, 401(k)</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; &gt; &gt; with matching, premium health plan, kick ass workstations with 30&quot;</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; &gt; &gt; displays, and stock options.  Local candidates are preferred; however,</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; &gt; &gt; all will be considered. Relocation OK.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; &gt; &gt; </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; &gt; &gt; Candidates should have at least 2 years experience with Ruby on Rails,</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; &gt; &gt; MySQL, OOP, test-driven development, relational database design and</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; &gt; &gt; basic Linux. Experience with PHP, AJAX or XHTML/CSS would be ideal, but</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; &gt; &gt; is not required. Candidates should also have experience writing</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; &gt; &gt; functional and technical specifications and be good communicators. Above</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; &gt; &gt; all else - be different and passionate about what you do.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; &gt; &gt; </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; &gt; &gt; If you are interested in this position, please submit your resume,</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; &gt; &gt; salary requirements, and a paragraph (or two) highlighting your</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; &gt; &gt; skills/experience as it pertains to this job to</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; &gt; &gt; <A HREF="mailto:beau@open-source-staffing.com">beau@open-source-staffing.com</A> </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; &gt; &gt; </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; &gt; &gt; Ruby / Ruby on Rails Jobs: <A HREF="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rubyrailsjobs">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rubyrailsjobs</A></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; &gt; &gt; </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; &gt; &gt; Thank you,</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; &gt; &gt; Beau J. Gould</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; &gt; &gt;  </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; &gt; &gt; Open Source Staffing</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; &gt; &gt; <A HREF="http://www.open-source-staffing.com">www.open-source-staffing.com</A></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; &gt; &gt; <A HREF="mailto:beau@open-source-staffing.com">beau@open-source-staffing.com</A></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; &gt; &gt; </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; &gt; &gt; _______________________________________________</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; &gt; &gt; Jobs mailing list</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; &gt; &gt; <A HREF="mailto:Jobs@flux.org">Jobs@flux.org</A></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; &gt; &gt; <A HREF="http://www.flux.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs">http://www.flux.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs</A></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; &gt; </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; &gt; _______________________________________________</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; &gt; Talk mailing list</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; &gt; <A HREF="mailto:Talk@flux.org">Talk@flux.org</A></FONT>
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; Talk mailing list</FONT>
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