[Linux] Round 1: Opera vs Firebird on bookmarking and keybaord access (re: tagging browser bookmarks)

Gabriel Horner linux@flux.org
Sun, 6 Jul 2003 01:47:38 +0200 (CEST)


Hi John,Kwan,Mick and interested others,
   Sorry I got back so late on this topic.I jumped into this a little more than expected. I've
done some sampling of Opera 7.1 and Firebird 0.6, the latest editions on both. Being a practical guy
I mainly focused on the keyboarding and bookmarking features. Here's an outline
of awesome/new features to me:
Common features
	open a folder of bookmarks in separate windows (it's possible John)
		howto
			in opera:click on the folder in the sidebar 
			in firebird: in menu or by clicking with middle button on a sidebar folder 
		uses
			you could have sessions related to a certain topic
			ie if I got something that's bugging me in perl i could open
			up a folder of perl reference sites
	opening any link only with keys 
		firebird: typing in any word will take cursor to highlight link with matching word
		opera: control-J pops open a link window
		comments
			firebird definitely has the cooler/more useful feature here
			opera almost makes up for this by having spatial link
			navigation (catching up to lynx slowly)
				press shift and any arrows to navigate among links 
	keystroking to search engines (thinking of switching over John? ;)
		opera;  you can:
			 type 'g dumb pandas' in the address bar to google for dumb pandas
			 search several engines with these one letter keywords
			 also access the search bar with Shift-F8,choose an engine with arrows and type a search term 
		firebird
			got more flexibility as you can define via a bookmark to search any site in this way
			check out http://devedge.netscape.com/viewsource/2002/bookmarks/
Unique features
	bookmarking
		firebird
			searching
				from what I've found there is no keystroke access to
					searching bookmarks, you can pop open the sidebar(Control-B)
					and click on the search box
				firebird only searches the bookmark name which is
					limiting (to Me!) if you want to associate keywords with bookmarks 
			bookmarking a site
				you can only specify a name when bookmarking
				you have to open a bookmark window to add any properties to the bookmark  
			aside- john you are able to autocheck for updates
		opera
			searching
				searches include a bookmark's keywords and description field as well as folder name
				which solved my earlier wish 
			bookmarking a site
				you can with a keystroke open a window to describe a bookmark fully
	customizing the keyboard
		opera all the way!
			map keys to: 
				websites- use a website often?
				links with a specified word
					by default Shift-x -> 'next', Shift-z -> 'previous' 
					this is pretty useful when navigating a site with a series of slides or an online manual
			map keys for navigation on almost any window,panel and even widgets
				ie I map navigation on browser and bookmark windows with
				vi keys,could do this for dropdown widgets if I really
				wanted to
			check out mappings with Alt-P and select Mouse and Keyboard
			there are many more keymapping possibilities I didn't check out 
	
Mick, my fiery conlusion is:
Since I favor a browser that can let me customize keys to my content and quickly 
access/create bookmarks with associated keywords, Opera is still the way for me.
However I'll still watch for Firebird as its open source nature offers plugins and potential growth.
John, you should be satisfied as almost everything you mentioned in
the previous thread is possible. 
Being the picky perfectionist, I still think I could surf the net quicker if I had a database 
handling the bookmarking and displayed the results on a webpage. 

If you're a perl guy who's already built a script for your bookmarking ease could you give me a sample starting point?
If you use other browsers(lynx,links?), does your favorite do any of the above better? 
If you had trouble reading the above outline, you should fold it with
vim: http://troubleshooters.com/projects/vimoutliner
Happy day after July 4th,
Gabriel