[Linux] Round 1: Opera vs Firebird on bookmarking and keybaord access (re:
tagging browser bookmarks)
Gabriel Horner
linux@flux.org
Sun, 6 Jul 2003 01:47:38 +0200 (CEST)
Hi John,Kwan,Mick and interested others,
Sorry I got back so late on this topic.I jumped into this a little more than expected. I've
done some sampling of Opera 7.1 and Firebird 0.6, the latest editions on both. Being a practical guy
I mainly focused on the keyboarding and bookmarking features. Here's an outline
of awesome/new features to me:
Common features
open a folder of bookmarks in separate windows (it's possible John)
howto
in opera:click on the folder in the sidebar
in firebird: in menu or by clicking with middle button on a sidebar folder
uses
you could have sessions related to a certain topic
ie if I got something that's bugging me in perl i could open
up a folder of perl reference sites
opening any link only with keys
firebird: typing in any word will take cursor to highlight link with matching word
opera: control-J pops open a link window
comments
firebird definitely has the cooler/more useful feature here
opera almost makes up for this by having spatial link
navigation (catching up to lynx slowly)
press shift and any arrows to navigate among links
keystroking to search engines (thinking of switching over John? ;)
opera; you can:
type 'g dumb pandas' in the address bar to google for dumb pandas
search several engines with these one letter keywords
also access the search bar with Shift-F8,choose an engine with arrows and type a search term
firebird
got more flexibility as you can define via a bookmark to search any site in this way
check out http://devedge.netscape.com/viewsource/2002/bookmarks/
Unique features
bookmarking
firebird
searching
from what I've found there is no keystroke access to
searching bookmarks, you can pop open the sidebar(Control-B)
and click on the search box
firebird only searches the bookmark name which is
limiting (to Me!) if you want to associate keywords with bookmarks
bookmarking a site
you can only specify a name when bookmarking
you have to open a bookmark window to add any properties to the bookmark
aside- john you are able to autocheck for updates
opera
searching
searches include a bookmark's keywords and description field as well as folder name
which solved my earlier wish
bookmarking a site
you can with a keystroke open a window to describe a bookmark fully
customizing the keyboard
opera all the way!
map keys to:
websites- use a website often?
links with a specified word
by default Shift-x -> 'next', Shift-z -> 'previous'
this is pretty useful when navigating a site with a series of slides or an online manual
map keys for navigation on almost any window,panel and even widgets
ie I map navigation on browser and bookmark windows with
vi keys,could do this for dropdown widgets if I really
wanted to
check out mappings with Alt-P and select Mouse and Keyboard
there are many more keymapping possibilities I didn't check out
Mick, my fiery conlusion is:
Since I favor a browser that can let me customize keys to my content and quickly
access/create bookmarks with associated keywords, Opera is still the way for me.
However I'll still watch for Firebird as its open source nature offers plugins and potential growth.
John, you should be satisfied as almost everything you mentioned in
the previous thread is possible.
Being the picky perfectionist, I still think I could surf the net quicker if I had a database
handling the bookmarking and displayed the results on a webpage.
If you're a perl guy who's already built a script for your bookmarking ease could you give me a sample starting point?
If you use other browsers(lynx,links?), does your favorite do any of the above better?
If you had trouble reading the above outline, you should fold it with
vim: http://troubleshooters.com/projects/vimoutliner
Happy day after July 4th,
Gabriel