[Linux] Bugzilla bug 18033
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RedHat 7.0???? Read this
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<TD ALIGN=left>Red Hat Linux - 7.0</TD>
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<TD ALIGN=left>RedHat 7.0 should be recalled.</TD>
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<TD ALIGN=left><B>Opened by</B> <A HREF="mailto:kyeh@pacbell.net">kyeh@pacbell.net</A>
<B>on</B> 2000-10-01 05:02:28 <B>Long Description</B></TD>
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<PRE>I strongly feel that RedHat7.0 should be recalled. It is VERY obvious
that this release was a "rush-job" and the QA quality is terrible. There
are some very serious bugs that causes this release to be un-usable and
even screws up previous working releases in the event of an upgrade.
If RedHat is even remotely interested in how users preceive the quality of
its software, they should recall this release and wait a few months to
work out the bugs before releasing it again. RedHat 7.0 causes nothing
but frustration for its users and wastes people's valueable time in trying
to debug what should have already been fixed during the QA phase.
It's releases like RedHat 7 that makes people want to switch to other
distribution's of Linux like Caldera, Turbo, and Mandrake, etc.</PRE>
<BR>------- <I>Additional comments from</I> <A HREF="mailto:alan@redhat.com">alan@redhat.com</A> 2000-10-01 05:52 -------<BR>
<PRE>If you have real bugs file them. If you bought a copy see the returns policy -
basically if you think
it sucks you can return it
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<BR>------- <I>Additional comments from</I> <A HREF="mailto:jiefg@videotron.ca">jiefg@videotron.ca</A> 2000-10-02 02:32 -------<BR>
<PRE>Alan, is this the way to treat comments ???
The # of bugs reported here, the seriousness of those bugs should goes without
comments. I can understand people being frustrated (hell. I AM !). It is true
that QA missed this release (think of all those users choosing to compile
themselves their apps -- now stuck with a broken c++; it's only an example,
there must be numerous others, but that one is the one that gets me jumping
right now).
I know you're doing hard work - I'm a developper myself at some communications
corp here in Montreal. But I tell ya, I'd get fired if I were to answer the way
you just did.
This thread here will go on numerous web sites, just to show how nice a person
you can be, and how tech people at RH treat users. I'm not saying that all RH
people are like you, but since you replied with a RH.com email address ...
Jeff</PRE>
<BR>------- <I>Additional comments from</I> <A HREF="mailto:kyeh@pacbell.net">kyeh@pacbell.net</A> 2000-10-02 02:49 -------<BR>
<PRE>Dear Alan and Jeff,
First off, I apologize if anyone working at Redhat took my comments personally. I was not aiming at Alan or anyone in particular with my comments.
They are my personal opinions and I needed to vent because I was very frustrated. However, I do believe I am entitled to my own opinions and my
opinions are not without merit. This release of Redhat has much more problems than 6.2 or previous releases. I have yet to complete an install of 7.0
that meets my requirements and heck, I've tried over 25 times now on 8 different server configurations so I do hope you can understand my frustrations.
Thank you Jeff for you comments. I really prefer NOT to switch to another linux distribution as I was very happy with 6.2. However, doesn't logic point to
a higher version of linux being more stable? I was under the assumption that 7.0 would be more stable than 6.2 since it's a higher version. I guess my
logic was flawed. In any case, if I do return my Redhat 7 Professional Server, it will not be because I was angry at Alan...it will be because Redhat 7
does not meet my requirements and there's no reason for me to upgrade my network of 25 perfectly working servers running 6.2 at my ISP.
Sincerely,
Ken
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<BR>------- <I>Additional comments from</I> <A HREF="mailto:alberts@vsb-soft.de">alberts@vsb-soft.de</A> 2000-10-02 10:31 -------<BR>
<PRE>Dear Alan,
I hope your comment is a result of hard working for more than 30 hours without
any pausing on the
problems in RedHat 7. I hope also that there will be solutions for the biggest
problems in the next
few days. On the other hand the first statement of Ken wold bekome true.
At the last weekend a had install a linux-server at my company. This server had
to work correctly
since today (monday) morning. After working hard on RH7 (installation was ok but
the building of
a new kernel fails) I had to downgrade to RH6.2.
To build a kernel is the most important feature to get a working server running
linux. RedHat had
been my favorite distribution because it was a good solution for the servers I
am responsible for.
This maybe can change in the next few weeks.
Frerich (germany)</PRE>
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