From bensode@hotmail.com Mon Jun 12 10:47:06 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: linux@flux.org Received: from hotmail.com (f193.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.193]) by mail.flux.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A27B711EC7 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 10:47:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 30836 invoked by uid 0); 12 Jun 2000 14:47:03 -0000 Message-ID: <20000612144703.30835.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.244.171.226 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 07:47:03 PDT X-Originating-IP: [208.244.171.226] From: "Dean Benson" To: linux@flux.org Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 10:47:03 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: [Linux] Is this thing on? Sender: linux-admin@flux.org Errors-To: linux-admin@flux.org X-BeenThere: linux@flux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta2 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Linux Technical Discussion and Advocacy Does this mean that we are live on the new lists now? Dean ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From adam@metrolink.com Mon Jun 12 10:57:39 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: linux@flux.org Received: from www.metrolink.com (www.metrolink.com [192.153.117.229]) by mail.flux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAA3511EC7 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 10:57:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from metrolink.com (IDENT:adam@babcom.metrolink.com [216.242.92.68]) by www.metrolink.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA24664; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 10:55:39 -0400 Message-ID: <3944F9BF.AA6BE95C@metrolink.com> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 10:54:55 -0400 From: Adam Glass MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dean Benson Cc: linux@flux.org Subject: Re: [Linux] Is this thing on? References: <20000612144703.30835.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-admin@flux.org Errors-To: linux-admin@flux.org X-BeenThere: linux@flux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta2 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Linux Technical Discussion and Advocacy Dean Benson wrote: > > Does this mean that we are live on the new lists now? > > Dean Yup! Congratulations, you got 'First Post!' More details coming soon... --Adam :-) -- Adam Glass | Metro Link, Inc. | FLUX-Florida Linux User Xchange adam@metrolink.com | http://www.metrolink.com | http://www.flux.org From nicks@argate.net Mon Jun 12 12:52:46 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: linux@flux.org Received: from metellus.argate.net (dsl-64-34-99-5.telocity.com [64.34.99.5]) by mail.flux.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CEA0711EC7 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 12:52:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from metellus (metellus [192.168.111.88]) by metellus.argate.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C327F87A01 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 12:52:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 12:52:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Nick Seidenman X-Sender: nicks@metellus Reply-To: Nick Seidenman To: linux@flux.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [Linux] Graphing/Plotting toolkit for Python Sender: linux-admin@flux.org Errors-To: linux-admin@flux.org X-BeenThere: linux@flux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta2 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Linux Technical Discussion and Advocacy Nice, simple package that generates 2D and 3D scientific/engineering images in numerous formats, including PS, GIF, PDF, QuickDraw, Tk, and others. http://www.strout.net/python/graphite/paper/paper.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Nick Seidenman, CISSP | "Ugly programs are like ugly Senior Security Consultant | suspension bridges: they're much Hyperon, Inc. | more liable to collapse than www.hyperon.com | pretty ones." -Eric Raymond From nicks@argate.net Mon Jun 12 14:22:36 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: linux@flux.org Received: from metellus.argate.net (dsl-64-34-99-5.telocity.com [64.34.99.5]) by mail.flux.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A73B511ECB for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 14:22:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from metellus (metellus [192.168.111.88]) by metellus.argate.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6868387A01 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 14:22:30 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 14:22:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Nick Seidenman X-Sender: nicks@metellus Reply-To: Nick Seidenman To: linux@flux.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [Linux] Webcams for linux Sender: linux-admin@flux.org Errors-To: linux-admin@flux.org X-BeenThere: linux@flux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta2 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Linux Technical Discussion and Advocacy Anyone using a webcam with a linux box? Recommendations? TiA nick ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Nick Seidenman, CISSP | "Ugly programs are like ugly Senior Security Consultant | suspension bridges: they're much Hyperon, Inc. | more liable to collapse than www.hyperon.com | pretty ones." -Eric Raymond From rloeb@cticonsulting.net Mon Jun 12 14:30:06 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: linux@flux.org Received: from serenity.ctiontheweb.com (tsftl2-258.gate.net [207.36.137.130]) by mail.flux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAD0311ECB for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 14:30:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from randylinux (root@randylinux.cti.com [192.168.1.17]) by serenity.ctiontheweb.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA05423; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 14:04:31 -0400 From: Randon Loeb Reply-To: rloeb@cticonsulting.net Organization: CTI To: Nick Seidenman , Nick Seidenman , linux@flux.org Subject: Re: [Linux] Webcams for linux Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 14:21:47 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00061214255305.22605@randylinux> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: linux-admin@flux.org Errors-To: linux-admin@flux.org X-BeenThere: linux@flux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta2 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Linux Technical Discussion and Advocacy not sure if you are asking about hardware or software, but, If you use the bttv driver, you can use many brooktrout based cards. there is one from Hauppage called WinTV that I have used. The bttv driver is part of the kernel now I beleive. If you look at the bttv docs, they list a large number of cards that will work. From there there is a variety of software you can get to grab snapshots (.jpg) or streaming. bttvgrab comes with most distributions, commandline utility. from there you work it into your webpages via some scripting solutions. some packages will automatically publish to an ftp site..blah, blah. its been some time since I looked, but I liked bttvgrab because then I can write my own scripts to control the whole process. On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, Nick Seidenman wrote: > Anyone using a webcam with a linux box? Recommendations? > > TiA > > nick > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Nick Seidenman, CISSP | "Ugly programs are like ugly > Senior Security Consultant | suspension bridges: they're much > Hyperon, Inc. | more liable to collapse than > www.hyperon.com | pretty ones." -Eric Raymond > > > _______________________________________________ > Linux mailing list > Linux@flux.org > http://www.flux.org/mailman/listinfo/linux -- Randon Loeb CIO CTI Consulting and Training rloeb@cticonsulting.net 954-971-6888 DO NOT ADD THIS ADDRESS TO ANY JOKE LISTS OR OTHER LISTS From bensode@hotmail.com Mon Jun 12 16:27:18 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: linux@flux.org Received: from hotmail.com (f239.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.239]) by mail.flux.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AB9EC11EC9 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 16:27:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 84274 invoked by uid 0); 12 Jun 2000 20:27:11 -0000 Message-ID: <20000612202711.84273.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.244.171.226 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 13:27:11 PDT X-Originating-IP: [208.244.171.226] From: "Dean Benson" To: linux@flux.org Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 16:27:11 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: [Linux] Kernel Upgrading Sender: linux-admin@flux.org Errors-To: linux-admin@flux.org X-BeenThere: linux@flux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta2 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Linux Technical Discussion and Advocacy I've read about the release of 2.2.16 and was considering the upgrade (manually) and I recall a pain in the ass problem I had last time I atempted to upgrade the kernel. Is there a way I can grab the current options that were used durring the install of SuSE 6.4? I spent forever trying to figure out which options to keep on and which ones to keep off ... Dean ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From dkr@hq.mycity.com Mon Jun 12 16:32:34 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: linux@flux.org Received: from mail.vcn.net (mail.vcn.net [209.236.36.3]) by mail.flux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49E2711ECE for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 16:32:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hq.mycity.com (IDENT:dkr@eos.vcn.net [209.236.36.5]) by mail.vcn.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA06895; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 16:31:49 -0400 Message-ID: <394548B5.F4FCFF39@hq.mycity.com> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 20:31:49 +0000 From: Danny Rathjens Organization: MyCity.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-6.1.1 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dean Benson Cc: linux@flux.org Subject: Re: [Linux] Kernel Upgrading References: <20000612202711.84273.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-admin@flux.org Errors-To: linux-admin@flux.org X-BeenThere: linux@flux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta2 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Linux Technical Discussion and Advocacy Just copy .config (usually /usr/src/linux/.config) To the new src tree before configuring. Or if you use make xconfig it has a menu option to save config to another file. Dean Benson wrote: > > I've read about the release of 2.2.16 and was considering the upgrade > (manually) and I recall a pain in the ass problem I had last time I atempted > to upgrade the kernel. Is there a way I can grab the current options that > were used durring the install of SuSE 6.4? I spent forever trying to figure > out which options to keep on and which ones to keep off ... > > Dean > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Linux mailing list > Linux@flux.org > http://www.flux.org/mailman/listinfo/linux -- struct Programmer/Analyst 'Danny Rathjens' {this.place = "MyCity.com";} "Believe nothing, merely because you have been told it, or because it is traditional, or because you have imagined it." -- Guatama Buddha From bensode@hotmail.com Tue Jun 13 08:48:09 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: linux@flux.org Received: from hotmail.com (f89.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.89]) by mail.flux.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1AF8F11EC7 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 08:48:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 59272 invoked by uid 0); 13 Jun 2000 12:48:03 -0000 Message-ID: <20000613124803.59271.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.244.171.226 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 05:48:03 PDT X-Originating-IP: [208.244.171.226] From: "Dean Benson" To: linux@flux.org Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 08:48:03 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: [Linux] SCO Announces their own linux development Sender: linux-admin@flux.org Errors-To: linux-admin@flux.org X-BeenThere: linux@flux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta2 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Linux Technical Discussion and Advocacy http://slashdot.org/articles/00/06/13/127228.shtml Nothing like a little MicroSquish backed linux distro ... heh heh ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From bensode@hotmail.com Tue Jun 13 17:13:42 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: linux@flux.org Received: from hotmail.com (f194.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.194]) by mail.flux.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DA64111EC7 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 17:13:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 18345 invoked by uid 0); 13 Jun 2000 21:13:39 -0000 Message-ID: <20000613211339.18343.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.244.171.226 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 14:13:39 PDT X-Originating-IP: [208.244.171.226] From: "Dean Benson" To: linux@flux.org Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 17:13:39 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: [Linux] Color Printing Sender: linux-admin@flux.org Errors-To: linux-admin@flux.org X-BeenThere: linux@flux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta2 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Linux Technical Discussion and Advocacy Anyone have success with the HP Deskjet 810C to print color? I have to date not been able to get color on SuSE 6.4 or 6.3. I set the printer using YaST2 and I am unsure of the print method. What do I need to post here as far as config files for diagnosis if it is a problem on my setup as opposed to hardware? Dean ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From dkr@hq.mycity.com Tue Jun 13 18:28:08 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: linux@flux.org Received: from mail.vcn.net (mail.vcn.net [209.236.36.3]) by mail.flux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15FD611EC7 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 18:28:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hq.mycity.com (IDENT:dkr@eos.vcn.net [209.236.36.5]) by mail.vcn.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA25096 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 18:28:06 -0400 Message-ID: <3946B576.87BECBF5@hq.mycity.com> Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 22:28:06 +0000 From: Danny Rathjens Organization: MyCity.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-6.1.1 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Florida Linux Users eXchange Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Linux] netscrape dates Sender: linux-admin@flux.org Errors-To: linux-admin@flux.org X-BeenThere: linux@flux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta2 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Linux Technical Discussion and Advocacy I upgraded from 4.72 -> 4.73 and now my dates are screwy. Some of them it just looks like it's not subtracting 4 for the timezone, even though my system timezone is set correctly. Anyone else have this problem or know what netscape is using to calc the date so maybe I could fool it into being in my tz? :) -- struct Programmer/Analyst 'Danny Rathjens' {this.place = "MyCity.com";} "Believe nothing, merely because you have been told it, or because it is traditional, or because you have imagined it." -- Guatama Buddha From kerryb@blalock1.com Tue Jun 13 19:02:20 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: linux@flux.org Received: from blalock1.com (dlci70.icsfm.com [207.151.140.70]) by mail.flux.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BC24B11EC7 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 19:02:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kerryb.k1domain ([64.34.101.201]) by pongo.pongo.org ; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 16:01:17 -0800 Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 18:55:00 -0400 (EDT) From: kerryb X-Sender: kerryb@kerryb.k1domain To: linux@flux.org In-Reply-To: <20000613210630.85083.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [Linux] Backup power Sender: linux-admin@flux.org Errors-To: linux-admin@flux.org X-BeenThere: linux@flux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta2 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Linux Technical Discussion and Advocacy Any recommendation for battery backup on three box network? Two linux, one windows, or can keep all booted to linux. One suggestion has been APC smart ups, either a 450 or 700 model, with apcupsd software. reply to: blalock@ieee.org From kerryb@blalock1.com Tue Jun 13 19:29:34 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: linux@flux.org Received: from blalock1.com (dlci70.icsfm.com [207.151.140.70]) by mail.flux.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 82F8411EC7 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 19:29:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kerryb.k1domain ([64.34.101.201]) by pongo.pongo.org ; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 16:29:30 -0800 Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 19:23:12 -0400 (EDT) From: kerryb X-Sender: kerryb@kerryb.k1domain To: Danny Rathjens Cc: Florida Linux Users eXchange Subject: Re: [Linux] netscrape dates In-Reply-To: <3946B576.87BECBF5@hq.mycity.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-admin@flux.org Errors-To: linux-admin@flux.org X-BeenThere: linux@flux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta2 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Linux Technical Discussion and Advocacy I,m not having a netscape date problem, but I am having a system time problem. I notice that when my box reboots, the time is 1 hour early. I have just reset the time so far, but there must be a reason the time is off. I use date to reset, but it does not hold through reboot. Possibly the bios time setting? Is there a way to set it from the console without rebooting? On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, Danny Rathjens wrote: > I upgraded from 4.72 -> 4.73 and now my dates are screwy. > Some of them it just looks like it's not subtracting 4 for the > timezone, even though my system timezone is set correctly. > > Anyone else have this problem or know what netscape is > using to calc the date so maybe I could fool it into being > in my tz? :) > -- > struct Programmer/Analyst 'Danny Rathjens' {this.place = "MyCity.com";} > "Believe nothing, merely because you have been told it, or because it > is traditional, or because you have imagined it." -- Guatama Buddha > > _______________________________________________ > Linux mailing list > Linux@flux.org > http://www.flux.org/mailman/listinfo/linux > reply to: blalock@ieee.org From nicks@argate.net Tue Jun 13 19:34:01 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: linux@flux.org Received: from metellus.argate.net (dsl-64-34-99-5.telocity.com [64.34.99.5]) by mail.flux.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9913D11EC7 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 19:34:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from metellus (metellus [192.168.111.88]) by metellus.argate.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1E5A87A01 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 19:33:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 19:33:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Nick Seidenman X-Sender: nicks@metellus Reply-To: Nick Seidenman To: Florida Linux Users eXchange Subject: Re: [Linux] netscrape dates In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-admin@flux.org Errors-To: linux-admin@flux.org X-BeenThere: linux@flux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta2 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Linux Technical Discussion and Advocacy On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, kerryb wrote: > I,m not having a netscape date problem, but I am having a system time > problem. I notice that when my box reboots, the time is 1 hour early. I > have just reset the time so far, but there must be a reason the time is > off. I use date to reset, but it does not hold through reboot. Possibly > the bios time setting? Is there a way to set it from the console without > rebooting? hwclock --systohc ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Nick Seidenman, CISSP | "Ugly programs are like ugly Senior Security Consultant | suspension bridges: they're much Hyperon, Inc. | more liable to collapse than www.hyperon.com | pretty ones." -Eric Raymond From jack@innovativeinternet.com Tue Jun 13 19:34:51 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: linux@flux.org Received: from saturn.innovativeinternet.net (saturn.innovativeinternet.net [208.244.164.5]) by mail.flux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFA4D11ECB for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 19:34:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from w1.innovativeinternet.com [208.244.164.21] (HELO innovativeinternet.com) by saturn.innovativeinternet.net (Switch-2.0.0/Switch-2.0.0) via ESMTP id ; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 19:34:37 -0400 Message-ID: <39476DE3.D09B8D6C@innovativeinternet.com> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 07:34:59 -0400 From: Jack Sasportas Organization: Innovative Internet Solutions Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kerryb , "linux@flux.org" Subject: Re: [Linux] Backup power References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-admin@flux.org Errors-To: linux-admin@flux.org X-BeenThere: linux@flux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta2 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Linux Technical Discussion and Advocacy The first question should be runtime you are looking for. They do have APC software for linux now, and other methods to monitor, but size is more important. You won't get more then 6 minutes on three boxes using a 700. If you run a 1400 on each box, you will probably get about 40 minutes of run time, so depending on your requirements go from there. I would based on run time look at matrix or the 2200 XL series, they have the ability to add batteries to extend run time, where the 1400 and less only have what they come with no additional runtime ability... kerryb wrote: > Any recommendation for battery backup on three box network? Two linux, one > windows, or can keep all booted to linux. One suggestion has been APC > smart ups, either a 450 or 700 model, with apcupsd software. > > reply to: > blalock@ieee.org > > _______________________________________________ > Linux mailing list > Linux@flux.org > http://www.flux.org/mailman/listinfo/linux -- ___________________________________________________________ Jack Sasportas Innovative Internet Solutions Phone 305.665.2500 Fax 305.665.2551 www.innovativeinternet.com www.web56.net From kerryb@blalock1.com Tue Jun 13 20:00:06 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: linux@flux.org Received: from blalock1.com (dlci70.icsfm.com [207.151.140.70]) by mail.flux.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1878C11EC7 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 20:00:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kerryb.k1domain ([64.34.101.201]) by pongo.pongo.org ; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 16:59:56 -0800 Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 19:53:38 -0400 (EDT) From: kerryb X-Sender: kerryb@kerryb.k1domain To: Jack Sasportas Cc: "linux@flux.org" Subject: Re: [Linux] Backup power In-Reply-To: <39476DE3.D09B8D6C@innovativeinternet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-admin@flux.org Errors-To: linux-admin@flux.org X-BeenThere: linux@flux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta2 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Linux Technical Discussion and Advocacy All I want to be able to do is shut the boxes down cleanly when power goes off. Since I am not present at night (need a few hours of sleep), and I am on the road during the day, I need software shutdown which I think APC has for linux now. Haven't had to many of those days this year, but I think the season is about here. But six min....is that enough time for software shutdown? On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, Jack Sasportas wrote: > The first question should be runtime you are looking for. > > They do have APC software for linux now, and other methods to monitor, but > size is more important. You won't get more then 6 minutes on three boxes > using a 700. If you run a 1400 on each box, you will probably get about 40 > minutes of run time, so depending on your requirements go from there. > > I would based on run time look at matrix or the 2200 XL series, they have the > ability to add batteries to extend run time, where the 1400 and less only have > what they come with no additional runtime ability... > > > kerryb wrote: > > > Any recommendation for battery backup on three box network? Two linux, one > > windows, or can keep all booted to linux. One suggestion has been APC > > smart ups, either a 450 or 700 model, with apcupsd software. > > > > reply to: > > blalock@ieee.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Linux mailing list > > Linux@flux.org > > http://www.flux.org/mailman/listinfo/linux > > -- > ___________________________________________________________ > Jack Sasportas > Innovative Internet Solutions > Phone 305.665.2500 > Fax 305.665.2551 > www.innovativeinternet.com > www.web56.net > > reply to: blalock@ieee.org From kerryb@blalock1.com Tue Jun 13 20:16:22 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: linux@flux.org Received: from blalock1.com (dlci70.icsfm.com [207.151.140.70]) by mail.flux.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B46DB11EC7 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 20:16:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kerryb.k1domain ([64.34.101.201]) by pongo.pongo.org ; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 17:16:16 -0800 Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 20:09:59 -0400 (EDT) From: kerryb X-Sender: kerryb@kerryb.k1domain To: Jack Sasportas Cc: "linux@flux.org" Subject: Re: [Linux] Backup power In-Reply-To: <39476DE3.D09B8D6C@innovativeinternet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-admin@flux.org Errors-To: linux-admin@flux.org X-BeenThere: linux@flux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta2 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Linux Technical Discussion and Advocacy Oh, another thing I am planning is to only use the battery on the boxes. I normally turn the monitors off on the two boxes that have one.(when unattended) Sorry for not giving all the details. On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, Jack Sasportas wrote: > The first question should be runtime you are looking for. > > They do have APC software for linux now, and other methods to monitor, but > size is more important. You won't get more then 6 minutes on three boxes > using a 700. If you run a 1400 on each box, you will probably get about 40 > minutes of run time, so depending on your requirements go from there. > > I would based on run time look at matrix or the 2200 XL series, they have the > ability to add batteries to extend run time, where the 1400 and less only have > what they come with no additional runtime ability... > > > kerryb wrote: > > > Any recommendation for battery backup on three box network? Two linux, one > > windows, or can keep all booted to linux. One suggestion has been APC > > smart ups, either a 450 or 700 model, with apcupsd software. > > > > reply to: > > blalock@ieee.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Linux mailing list > > Linux@flux.org > > http://www.flux.org/mailman/listinfo/linux > > -- > ___________________________________________________________ > Jack Sasportas > Innovative Internet Solutions > Phone 305.665.2500 > Fax 305.665.2551 > www.innovativeinternet.com > www.web56.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > Linux mailing list > Linux@flux.org > http://www.flux.org/mailman/listinfo/linux > reply to: blalock@ieee.org From bensode@hotmail.com Tue Jun 13 22:29:17 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: linux@flux.org Received: from hotmail.com (f250.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.240.75]) by mail.flux.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E651911EC7 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 22:29:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 54455 invoked by uid 0); 14 Jun 2000 02:29:14 -0000 Message-ID: <20000614022914.54454.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.61.36.145 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 19:29:14 PDT X-Originating-IP: [208.61.36.145] From: "Dean Benson" To: kerryb@blalock1.com, linux@flux.org Subject: Re: [Linux] Backup power Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 22:29:14 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: linux-admin@flux.org Errors-To: linux-admin@flux.org X-BeenThere: linux@flux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta2 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Linux Technical Discussion and Advocacy I have 2 APC class UPS systems. APC 1250 SmartUPS and a newer APC420 SmartUPS. I have yet to get the "smart" aspect to work right but that's only because I am lazy when it comes to home systems. :o) I also use the larger brothers of the 1250 at the office and they work like a charm and the load isn't balanced very well, but I do get about 15 minutes for 8 servers (mixed OS) on 3 units before shutdown is initiated cleanly. Dean >From: kerryb >To: linux@flux.org >Subject: [Linux] Backup power >Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 18:55:00 -0400 (EDT) > >Any recommendation for battery backup on three box network? Two linux, one >windows, or can keep all booted to linux. One suggestion has been APC >smart ups, either a 450 or 700 model, with apcupsd software. > >reply to: >blalock@ieee.org > > >_______________________________________________ >Linux mailing list >Linux@flux.org >http://www.flux.org/mailman/listinfo/linux ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From jack@innovativeinternet.com Tue Jun 13 23:08:08 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: linux@flux.org Received: from saturn.innovativeinternet.net (saturn.innovativeinternet.net [208.244.164.5]) by mail.flux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C569B11EC7 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 23:08:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from adsl-61-24-232.mia.bellsouth.net [208.61.24.232] (HELO innovativeinternet.com) by saturn.innovativeinternet.net (Switch-2.0.0/Switch-2.0.0) via ESMTP id ; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 23:08:04 -0400 Message-ID: <3946F712.246499C4@innovativeinternet.com> Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 23:08:02 -0400 From: Jack Sasportas X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dean Benson , linux@flux.org Subject: Re: [Linux] Backup power References: <20000614022914.54454.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-admin@flux.org Errors-To: linux-admin@flux.org X-BeenThere: linux@flux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta2 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Linux Technical Discussion and Advocacy One thing I want to mention here, is I utilize the scheduling features of the APC powerchite software to actually drain the power and test the *actual* run time of each ups ( once a month ), and I have one SmartUPS 1400 which has 6 minutes of run time on 2 boxes with no monitor, so you have to be aware that the batteries do wear out after 1.5-2.5 years. What kind of computers are you running that you can get 8 on a 1250 ups ? That's amazing, you are also putting too much load on the ups, because at peak 8 computers times a 300 watt computer is 2400 watts, which is more then a 1400 is supposed to support. Jack Dean Benson wrote: > I have 2 APC class UPS systems. APC 1250 SmartUPS and a newer APC420 > SmartUPS. I have yet to get the "smart" aspect to work right but that's > only because I am lazy when it comes to home systems. :o) I also use the > larger brothers of the 1250 at the office and they work like a charm and the > load isn't balanced very well, but I do get about 15 minutes for 8 servers > (mixed OS) on 3 units before shutdown is initiated cleanly. > > Dean > > >From: kerryb > >To: linux@flux.org > >Subject: [Linux] Backup power > >Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 18:55:00 -0400 (EDT) > > > >Any recommendation for battery backup on three box network? Two linux, one > >windows, or can keep all booted to linux. One suggestion has been APC > >smart ups, either a 450 or 700 model, with apcupsd software. > > > >reply to: > >blalock@ieee.org > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Linux mailing list > >Linux@flux.org > >http://www.flux.org/mailman/listinfo/linux > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Linux mailing list > Linux@flux.org > http://www.flux.org/mailman/listinfo/linux -- ___________________________________________________________ Jack Sasportas Innovative Internet Solutions Phone 305.665.2500 Fax 305.665.2551 www.innovativeinternet.com www.web56.net From jack@innovativeinternet.com Tue Jun 13 23:22:31 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: linux@flux.org Received: from saturn.innovativeinternet.net (saturn.innovativeinternet.net [208.244.164.5]) by mail.flux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB00711EC7 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 23:22:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from adsl-61-24-232.mia.bellsouth.net [208.61.24.232] (HELO innovativeinternet.com) by saturn.innovativeinternet.net (Switch-2.0.0/Switch-2.0.0) via ESMTP id for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 23:22:29 -0400 Message-ID: <3946FA72.2F0B8CE@innovativeinternet.com> Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 23:22:26 -0400 From: Jack Sasportas X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux@flux.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Linux] Backup Exclusion ? Sender: linux-admin@flux.org Errors-To: linux-admin@flux.org X-BeenThere: linux@flux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta2 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Linux Technical Discussion and Advocacy In order to get the maximum storage from each backup I have certain client info, and reports whcih can be regenerated excluded, I also have directories like: /proc, /tmp excluded. Can you tell me whatever files and or directories really don't need to backup ? Thanks ! ___________________________________________________________ Jack Sasportas Innovative Internet Solutions Phone 305.665.2500 Fax 305.665.2551 www.innovativeinternet.com www.web56.net From dare@netrox.net Tue Jun 13 23:46:05 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: linux@flux.org Received: from t-rex.netrox.net (odyssey.netrox.net [204.253.4.3]) by mail.flux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C35611EC7 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 23:46:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from raptor.netrox.net (netrox.net [204.253.4.4]) by t-rex.netrox.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA22358 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 23:43:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 23:45:47 -0400 (EDT) From: dare To: linux@flux.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [Linux] Pine Filter help please Sender: linux-admin@flux.org Errors-To: linux-admin@flux.org X-BeenThere: linux@flux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta2 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Linux Technical Discussion and Advocacy Flux, My Pine filters are all fluxed up with the recent flux split. Are there any folks that can tell me how to set my rules to filter the pine mail? With the old list I simply added flux@cs.fiu.edu to the "TO:" field and had them filtered to their own folders. Trying to to the same thing now hasn't worked. Any ideas? RD dare@netrox.net From nicks@argate.net Tue Jun 13 23:58:24 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: linux@flux.org Received: from metellus.argate.net (dsl-64-34-99-5.telocity.com [64.34.99.5]) by mail.flux.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BE6C011EC7 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 23:58:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from metellus (metellus [192.168.111.88]) by metellus.argate.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EEFB87A01 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 23:58:18 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 23:58:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Nick Seidenman X-Sender: nicks@metellus Reply-To: Nick Seidenman To: linux@flux.org Subject: Re: [Linux] Pine Filter help please In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-admin@flux.org Errors-To: linux-admin@flux.org X-BeenThere: linux@flux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta2 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Linux Technical Discussion and Advocacy On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, dare wrote: > > Flux, > > My Pine filters are all fluxed up with the recent flux split. > Are there any folks that can tell me how to set my rules to > filter the pine mail? > > With the old list I simply added flux@cs.fiu.edu to the "TO:" > field and had them filtered to their own folders. Trying to to > the same thing now hasn't worked. I think you might want to use procmail instead. Here's some example procmail rules for the new lists (and a little extra you might find useful): :0 * ^Subject:.*\[talk\] { :0: /home/dare/Mail/flux-talk } :0 * ^Subject:.*\[linux\] { :0: /home/dare/Mail/flux-linux } :0 * ^Subject:.*\[flux-announce\] { :0: /home/dare/Mail/flux-announce } # "Kill file" -- don't even bother with these yutzes. :0 * ^From:.*(yutz|putz|futz) { :0: /dev/null } ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Nick Seidenman, CISSP | "Ugly programs are like ugly Senior Security Consultant | suspension bridges: they're much Hyperon, Inc. | more liable to collapse than www.hyperon.com | pretty ones." -Eric Raymond From tim@timjones.com Wed Jun 14 00:24:48 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: linux@flux.org Received: from smtp-server.tampabay.rr.com (smtp-server1.tampabay.rr.com [24.92.1.13]) by mail.flux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5112611EC7 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 00:24:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from timjones.com (dt051n84.tampabay.rr.com [24.92.163.132]) by smtp-server.tampabay.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA03809; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 00:24:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <39470907.4E3241D@timjones.com> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 00:24:39 -0400 From: Tim Jones X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.13 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dean Benson Cc: linux@flux.org Subject: Re: [Linux] Color Printing (WinPrinters suck) References: <20000613211339.18343.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-admin@flux.org Errors-To: linux-admin@flux.org X-BeenThere: linux@flux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta2 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Linux Technical Discussion and Advocacy I went through this very recently... The HP DeskJets 700 series (AND judging by the 810's absence from YaST's printer list or RedHat's printtool filter list) are basically stripped-down, dumbed-down win-printers where the Windows driver does all the work (and it requires two way communication with the host, which simply isn't the way lpd was designed to do things). I have a 722C, which has an experimental Linux driver, but my results with it were extremely poor, only in black and white, and the author (Tim Norman?) seems to not be actively working on it. I ended up giving the 722C to my mom (who uses only a Windows 95 laptop), and buying a used HP 560C from a guy on Ebay - cost was about $60. I have it hooked up to my new box, within 30 minutes, I was printing COLOR and B/W from Netscape/Linux, and GIMP, anything piped into lpr, and any Windows application via SAMBA.... I wish now that I hadn't wasted all that time trying to get the 722C to work with Linux. Yes, the 560C is older, bigger and clunkier, but darn it, it works great with everything I want! Another example of dumbed-down hardware for dumbed-down users - I wouldn't waste my time on HP's recent printers - get something that does at least PCL (ideally, Postscript!). Tim Dean Benson wrote: > Anyone have success with the HP Deskjet 810C to print color? I have to date > not been able to get color on SuSE 6.4 or 6.3. I set the printer using > YaST2 and I am unsure of the print method. What do I need to post here as > far as config files for diagnosis if it is a problem on my setup as opposed > to hardware? > > Dean > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Linux mailing list > Linux@flux.org > http://www.flux.org/mailman/listinfo/linux From scharkalvin@yahoo.com Wed Jun 14 07:33:23 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: linux@flux.org Received: from web2105.mail.yahoo.com (web2105.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.68.249]) by mail.flux.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 12A2711EC7 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 07:33:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 2667 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Jun 2000 11:33:20 -0000 Message-ID: <20000614113320.2666.qmail@web2105.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.69.124.128] by web2105.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 04:33:20 PDT Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 04:33:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Kenneth Scharf Subject: Re: [Linux] Color Printing (WinPrinters suck) To: Tim Jones , Dean Benson Cc: linux@flux.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: linux-admin@flux.org Errors-To: linux-admin@flux.org X-BeenThere: linux@flux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta2 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Linux Technical Discussion and Advocacy There ARE some members of the 800 and 900 family that work under linux. CLUE...If the printer is supported by MAC, it probably works under linux ... The new USB printers will work under linux, as soon as the 2.4 series kernels (with usb printer support) come out, or back patch a 2.2 kernel (at your own risk!). --- Tim Jones wrote: > I went through this very recently... The HP DeskJets > 700 series (AND judging by > the 810's absence from YaST's printer list or > RedHat's printtool filter > list) are basically stripped-down, dumbed-down > win-printers where the Windows > driver does all the work (and it requires two way > communication with the host, > which simply isn't the way lpd was designed to do > things). I have a 722C, > which has an experimental Linux driver, but my > results with it were extremely > poor, only in black and white, and the author (Tim > Norman?) seems to not be > actively working on it. > > I ended up giving the 722C to my mom (who uses only > a Windows 95 laptop), and > buying a used HP 560C from a guy on Ebay - cost was > about $60. I have it > hooked up to my new box, within 30 minutes, I was > printing COLOR and B/W from > Netscape/Linux, and GIMP, anything piped into lpr, > and any Windows application > via SAMBA.... I wish now that I hadn't wasted all > that time trying to get the > 722C to work with Linux. Yes, the 560C is older, > bigger and clunkier, but darn > it, it works great with everything I want! > > Another example of dumbed-down hardware for > dumbed-down users - I wouldn't > waste my time on HP's recent printers - get > something that does at least PCL > (ideally, Postscript!). > > > > > Tim > > Dean Benson wrote: > > > Anyone have success with the HP Deskjet 810C to > print color? I have to date > > not been able to get color on SuSE 6.4 or 6.3. I > set the printer using > > YaST2 and I am unsure of the print method. What > do I need to post here as > > far as config files for diagnosis if it is a > problem on my setup as opposed > > to hardware? > > > > Dean > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > http://www.hotmail.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Linux mailing list > > Linux@flux.org > > http://www.flux.org/mailman/listinfo/linux > > > _______________________________________________ > Linux mailing list > Linux@flux.org > http://www.flux.org/mailman/listinfo/linux ===== Amateur Radio, when all else fails! http://www.qsl.net/wa2mze Debian Gnu Linux, Live Free or ..... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com From bensode@hotmail.com Wed Jun 14 09:40:17 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: linux@flux.org Received: from hotmail.com (f248.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.248]) by mail.flux.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3B8E711EC7 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 09:40:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 47261 invoked by uid 0); 14 Jun 2000 13:40:14 -0000 Message-ID: <20000614134014.47260.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.244.171.226 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 06:40:14 PDT X-Originating-IP: [208.244.171.226] From: "Dean Benson" To: jack@innovativeinternet.com, linux@flux.org Subject: Re: [Linux] Backup power Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 09:40:14 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: linux-admin@flux.org Errors-To: linux-admin@flux.org X-BeenThere: linux@flux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta2 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Linux Technical Discussion and Advocacy If you would have read the entire message you would have noticed the part that said 8 servers on 3 units and the load wasn't well balanced. Dean >From: Jack Sasportas >To: Dean Benson , linux@flux.org >Subject: Re: [Linux] Backup power >Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 23:08:02 -0400 > >One thing I want to mention here, is I utilize the scheduling features of >the >APC powerchite software to actually drain the power and test the *actual* >run >time of each ups ( once a month ), and I have one SmartUPS 1400 which has 6 >minutes of run time on 2 boxes with no monitor, so you have to be aware >that the >batteries do wear out after 1.5-2.5 years. > >What kind of computers are you running that you can get 8 on a 1250 ups ? >That's amazing, you are also putting too much load on the ups, because at >peak 8 >computers times a 300 watt computer is 2400 watts, which is more then a >1400 is >supposed to support. > >Jack > > >Dean Benson wrote: > > > I have 2 APC class UPS systems. APC 1250 SmartUPS and a newer APC420 > > SmartUPS. I have yet to get the "smart" aspect to work right but that's > > only because I am lazy when it comes to home systems. :o) I also use >the > > larger brothers of the 1250 at the office and they work like a charm and >the > > load isn't balanced very well, but I do get about 15 minutes for 8 >servers > > (mixed OS) on 3 units before shutdown is initiated cleanly. > > > > Dean > > > > >From: kerryb > > >To: linux@flux.org > > >Subject: [Linux] Backup power > > >Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 18:55:00 -0400 (EDT) > > > > > >Any recommendation for battery backup on three box network? Two linux, >one > > >windows, or can keep all booted to linux. One suggestion has been APC > > >smart ups, either a 450 or 700 model, with apcupsd software. > > > > > >reply to: > > >blalock@ieee.org > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Linux mailing list > > >Linux@flux.org > > >http://www.flux.org/mailman/listinfo/linux > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Linux mailing list > > Linux@flux.org > > http://www.flux.org/mailman/listinfo/linux > >-- >___________________________________________________________ >Jack Sasportas >Innovative Internet Solutions >Phone 305.665.2500 >Fax 305.665.2551 >www.innovativeinternet.com >www.web56.net > > > >_______________________________________________ >Linux mailing list >Linux@flux.org >http://www.flux.org/mailman/listinfo/linux ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From bensode@hotmail.com Wed Jun 14 10:12:48 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: linux@flux.org Received: from hotmail.com (f261.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.240.136]) by mail.flux.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BF0D511EC7 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 10:12:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 12601 invoked by uid 0); 14 Jun 2000 14:12:45 -0000 Message-ID: <20000614141245.12600.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.244.171.226 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 07:12:45 PDT X-Originating-IP: [208.244.171.226] From: "Dean Benson" To: tim@timjones.com Cc: linux@flux.org Subject: Re: [Linux] Color Printing (WinPrinters suck) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 10:12:45 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: linux-admin@flux.org Errors-To: linux-admin@flux.org X-BeenThere: linux@flux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta2 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Linux Technical Discussion and Advocacy I will have to check that out ... I wish I could afford the laser series -- those are smart printers! :o) But you can't blame HP for producing hardware that is inexpensive for Windows users. It's good that they are at least catering to someone with cost effective solutions. I remember when crappy color printers were running $300-$400 and now these same types are under $100. Dean >From: Tim Jones >To: Dean Benson >CC: linux@flux.org >Subject: Re: [Linux] Color Printing (WinPrinters suck) >Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 00:24:39 -0400 > >I went through this very recently... The HP DeskJets 700 series (AND >judging by >the 810's absence from YaST's printer list or RedHat's printtool filter >list) are basically stripped-down, dumbed-down win-printers where the >Windows >driver does all the work (and it requires two way communication with the >host, >which simply isn't the way lpd was designed to do things). I have a 722C, >which has an experimental Linux driver, but my results with it were >extremely >poor, only in black and white, and the author (Tim Norman?) seems to not be >actively working on it. > >I ended up giving the 722C to my mom (who uses only a Windows 95 laptop), >and >buying a used HP 560C from a guy on Ebay - cost was about $60. I have it >hooked up to my new box, within 30 minutes, I was printing COLOR and B/W >from >Netscape/Linux, and GIMP, anything piped into lpr, and any Windows >application >via SAMBA.... I wish now that I hadn't wasted all that time trying to get >the >722C to work with Linux. Yes, the 560C is older, bigger and clunkier, but >darn >it, it works great with everything I want! > >Another example of dumbed-down hardware for dumbed-down users - I wouldn't >waste my time on HP's recent printers - get something that does at least >PCL >(ideally, Postscript!). > > > > >Tim > >Dean Benson wrote: > > > Anyone have success with the HP Deskjet 810C to print color? I have to >date > > not been able to get color on SuSE 6.4 or 6.3. I set the printer using > > YaST2 and I am unsure of the print method. What do I need to post here >as > > far as config files for diagnosis if it is a problem on my setup as >opposed > > to hardware? > > > > Dean > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Linux mailing list > > Linux@flux.org > > http://www.flux.org/mailman/listinfo/linux > ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From brianp@futuremetals.com Wed Jun 14 10:14:41 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: linux@flux.org Received: from futuremetals.com (ns1.futuremetals.com [208.5.112.131]) by mail.flux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0253311EC9 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 10:14:40 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brian Phillips" To: Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 10:14:33 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <39463439.9784C5E8@valinux.com> Subject: [Linux] Linux file limits Sender: linux-admin@flux.org Errors-To: linux-admin@flux.org X-BeenThere: linux@flux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta2 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Linux Technical Discussion and Advocacy Is there a limit to the number of files I can have in a single subdirectory? I've run up against the MS-DOS 512 file limit on root (c:\) and 1024 file limit in subdirectories before. I've not gotten definitive answers as to whether these limits apply in Windows9x and UNIX. So I've always limited these types of things to 1000 per subdirectory. The reason I ask is because I've inherited an application that stores images in ten subdirectories (based on the HUNDREDTHS digit! So that 00301.tif and 87312.tif are in the "/usr/images/3" subdirectory). After six years of running there are now 29K+ images in the ten subdirectories... almost 3K images per subdirectory. I want to avoid having a situation where the superblock loses track of the data. I've had this happen in a Win3.1 application... Friday afternoon there were 5K+ images in one subdirectory, on Monday morning I was told images were missing. I checked and the image subdirectory had only about 1200 image files in it. I Restored the data from the previous day (I guess the FAT could handle 5000 images but not 5000+1!) and changed the structure to a network or hierarchical structure, limiting the number of files in a single subdirectory to 1000. -oo- Brian Phillips, Director of Information Technology Future Metals, Inc. 5400 NW 35th Av., Ft Lauderdale, FL 33309 800-733-0960 ext 256 (www.futuremetals.com) From carlc@iname.com Wed Jun 14 10:19:13 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: linux@flux.org Received: from sv1.carlc.com (sv1.carlc.com [209.211.216.2]) by mail.flux.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 159B411EC9 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 10:19:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 9191 invoked from network); 14 Jun 2000 14:21:25 -0000 Received: from nat-170.fhp-mfg.com (HELO fh?rcc) (12.8.8.170) by sv1.carlc.com with SMTP; 14 Jun 2000 14:21:25 -0000 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000614101905.008ffa60@mail.carlc.com> X-Sender: cc@mail.carlc.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 10:19:05 -0400 To: linux@flux.org From: "Carl C." Subject: Re: [Linux] Backup power In-Reply-To: <20000614134014.47260.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: linux-admin@flux.org Errors-To: linux-admin@flux.org X-BeenThere: linux@flux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta2 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Linux Technical Discussion and Advocacy At 09:40 AM 6/14/00 EDT, you wrote: > > If you would have read the entire message you would have noticed the part >that said 8 servers on 3 units and the load wasn't well balanced. > >Dean Also, remember that Watts is not equal to VA. I've got a Liebert 16kW Series 300 . The 16kW is 20kVA. Thats why APC and TRIPP started rating in kVA, its a larger number and the public just cares about larger numbers on the side of the box when they buy them for Home usage. $0.02, Carl ===================== http://www.carlc.com/ "Price, Performance, Quality. Choose any two you like." From bensode@hotmail.com Wed Jun 14 10:21:11 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: linux@flux.org Received: from hotmail.com (f188.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.188]) by mail.flux.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3777B11EC7 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 10:21:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 73861 invoked by uid 0); 14 Jun 2000 14:21:05 -0000 Message-ID: <20000614142105.73860.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.244.171.226 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 07:21:05 PDT X-Originating-IP: [208.244.171.226] From: "Dean Benson" To: linux@flux.org Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 10:21:05 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: [Linux] OnLine Trainings free? Sender: linux-admin@flux.org Errors-To: linux-admin@flux.org X-BeenThere: linux@flux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta2 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Linux Technical Discussion and Advocacy There's a training/certification company that is streaming class videos and materials for free for various technical certifications. I haven't gone into the whole site but I just registered on a word of mouth reference. They apparently offer MCSE Cert along with training in linux and other projects. www.leapit.com Looks interesting but I can't wait to see what the gimmick is ... Dean ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From tim@timjones.com Wed Jun 14 10:21:52 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: linux@flux.org Received: from smtp-server.tampabay.rr.com (smtp-server1.tampabay.rr.com [24.92.1.13]) by mail.flux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3562711ECE for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 10:21:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from timjones.com (dt051n84.tampabay.rr.com [24.92.163.132]) by smtp-server.tampabay.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA10603; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 10:21:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <394794F2.D297EBEA@timjones.com> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 10:21:38 -0400 From: Tim Jones X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.13 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kenneth Scharf Cc: Dean Benson , linux@flux.org Subject: Re: [Linux] Color Printing (WinPrinters suck) References: <20000614113320.2666.qmail@web2105.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-admin@flux.org Errors-To: linux-admin@flux.org X-BeenThere: linux@flux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta2 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Linux Technical Discussion and Advocacy Kenneth Scharf wrote: > There ARE some members of the 800 and 900 family that > work under linux. Yes, I saw the 850 and 890 on YaST's list on my SuSE 6.3 box, but only up to 560C and 6xx on my RedHat 6.0 system. (Maybe 6.2 has support for a couple more?) But my information on the 7xx series being totally brain-damaged came from the 720C driver page put up by Tim Norman at http://www.httptech.com/ppa/. In his words PPA = "we were too cheap to implement PCL". I couldn't even get b/w to work using Mr. Norman's driver. Spending the $60 on that HP 560C printer was much cheaper than struggling with HP's 722C deadhead printer. > CLUE...If the printer is supported > by MAC, it probably works under linux ... The new USB > printers will work under linux, as soon as the 2.4 > series kernels (with usb printer support) come out, or > back patch a 2.2 kernel (at your own risk!). It's just easier to go shopping with your Linux compatibility list in hand. When the sales droid asks what that list is, make sure to tell him exactly what it is - nice and LOUD! They'll get the message, eventually. I went looking for a sound card recently, and took my list. When I asked for an apparently older model (The 64 AWE), they said, "oh but the performance on the SoundBlaster 512 SuperDuper AWE PCI w/kitchen sink" performs sooo much better" - I looked him straight in the eye and told him COMPATABILITY MATTERS far more than performance! I'm still looking... > --- Tim Jones wrote: > > I went through this very recently... The HP DeskJets > > 700 series (AND judging by > > the 810's absence from YaST's printer list or > > RedHat's printtool filter > > list) are basically stripped-down, dumbed-down > > win-printers where the Windows > > driver does all the work (and it requires two way > > communication with the host, > > which simply isn't the way lpd was designed to do > > things). I have a 722C, > > which has an experimental Linux driver, but my > > results with it were extremely > > poor, only in black and white, and the author (Tim > > Norman?) seems to not be > > actively working on it. From dare@netrox.net Wed Jun 14 10:44:45 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: linux@flux.org Received: from t-rex.netrox.net (odyssey.netrox.net [204.253.4.3]) by mail.flux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78B6311EC7 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 10:44:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from raptor.netrox.net (netrox.net [204.253.4.4]) by t-rex.netrox.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA09748; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 10:42:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 10:44:13 -0400 (EDT) From: dare To: Nick Seidenman Cc: linux@flux.org Subject: Re: [Linux] Pine Filter help please In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-admin@flux.org Errors-To: linux-admin@flux.org X-BeenThere: linux@flux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta2 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Linux Technical Discussion and Advocacy > > I think you might want to use procmail instead. Here's some example > procmail rules for the new lists (and a little extra you might find > useful): > My ISP gives me a shell account and if I wish to manage my mail on their server my only option is pine. I would definitely prefer procmail, but so far Pine has been adequate for my needs. Thanks anyway. From bmooney@nntp.seflin.org Wed Jun 14 10:49:14 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: linux@flux.org Received: from nntp.seflin.org (nntp.seflin.org [199.227.192.7]) by mail.flux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A70511ECA for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 10:49:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from bmooney@localhost) by nntp.seflin.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA15170; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 10:49:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 10:49:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Mooney Subject: Re: [Linux] Linux file limits To: Brian Phillips Cc: linux@flux.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-admin@flux.org Errors-To: linux-admin@flux.org X-BeenThere: linux@flux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta2 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Linux Technical Discussion and Advocacy On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, Brian Phillips wrote: > Is there a limit to the number of files I can have in a single subdirectory? > ... > The reason I ask is because I've inherited an application that stores images > in ten subdirectories (based on the HUNDREDTHS digit! So that 00301.tif and > 87312.tif are in the "/usr/images/3" subdirectory). After six years of > running there are now 29K+ images in the ten subdirectories... almost 3K > images per subdirectory. I've had 30,000+ files in a single unix directory. File access via fopen() was slow, and 'ls' was a dog, but the files were there. Not sure if there is a limit, assuming there are enough inodes for the partition as a whole. Bill From jack@innovativeinternet.com Wed Jun 14 11:19:46 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: linux@flux.org Received: from saturn.innovativeinternet.net (saturn.innovativeinternet.net [208.244.164.5]) by mail.flux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4C9D11EC7 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 11:19:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from adsl-61-24-232.mia.bellsouth.net [208.61.24.232] (HELO innovativeinternet.com) by saturn.innovativeinternet.net (Switch-2.0.0/Switch-2.0.0) via ESMTP id for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 11:19:40 -0400 Message-ID: <3947A244.1055A0DC@innovativeinternet.com> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 11:18:28 -0400 From: Jack Sasportas X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux@flux.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Linux] Sendmail Delay ? Sender: linux-admin@flux.org Errors-To: linux-admin@flux.org X-BeenThere: linux@flux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta2 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Linux Technical Discussion and Advocacy I see this info in maillog, xdelay=00:09:19 this entry is when we e-mail out from our server. II was wondering is this due to the mailserver on the receiving side not accepting or receiving the message ? Most of the xdelay's in the log are close to 0.... Here is what sendmail says, and we are on Multiple T1's so I'm guessing it's the receiving side: xdelay The amount of time needed in this delivery attempt (normally indicative of the speed of the connection). Thanks -- ___________________________________________________________ Jack Sasportas Innovative Internet Solutions Phone 305.665.2500 Fax 305.665.2551 www.innovativeinternet.com www.web56.net From nick@metrolink.com Wed Jun 14 11:21:25 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: linux@flux.org Received: from www.metrolink.com (www.metrolink.com [192.153.117.229]) by mail.flux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38CC611ECA for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 11:21:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from static.metrolink.com (nick@static.metrolink.com [216.242.92.76]) by www.metrolink.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA08771 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 11:21:23 -0400 Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 11:21:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Nikola Miljanic To: linux@flux.org In-Reply-To: <394794F2.D297EBEA@timjones.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [Linux] Re: Sound card compatibility Sender: linux-admin@flux.org Errors-To: linux-admin@flux.org X-BeenThere: linux@flux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta2 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Linux Technical Discussion and Advocacy On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, Tim Jones wrote: > I went looking for a sound card recently, and took my list. When I asked > for an apparently older model (The 64 AWE), they said, "oh but the > performance on the SoundBlaster 512 SuperDuper AWE PCI w/kitchen sink" > performs sooo much better" - I looked him straight in the eye and told him > COMPATABILITY MATTERS far more than performance! I'm still looking... I don't know (and you didn't say) what exactly you're looking for, but I've found SoundBlaster Live! to be "just right". And there are drivers for it, either through SuSE or directly from Creative or from ALSA page. Let me know if you have any questions about it. =============================================================================== Nikola Miljanic [Nick] | | Metro Link, Inc. nick@metrolink.com | | http://www.metrolink.com =============================================================================== From dkr@hq.mycity.com Wed Jun 14 11:22:28 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: linux@flux.org Received: from mail.vcn.net (mail.vcn.net [209.236.36.3]) by mail.flux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC68911ECD for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 11:22:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hq.mycity.com (IDENT:dkr@eos.vcn.net [209.236.36.5]) by mail.vcn.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA13225; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 11:22:20 -0400 Message-ID: <3947A32C.4E3120D2@hq.mycity.com> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 15:22:20 +0000 From: Danny Rathjens Organization: MyCity.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-6.1.1 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Mooney Cc: Brian Phillips , linux@flux.org Subject: Re: [Linux] Linux file limits References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-admin@flux.org Errors-To: linux-admin@flux.org X-BeenThere: linux@flux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta2 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Linux Technical Discussion and Advocacy There is a limit. It is based on the number of inodes. To see how many available and how many used you do: df -i Filesystem Inodes IUsed IFree IUse% Mounted on /dev/hda1 1505280 137598 1367682 9% / To tweak the number of inodes you can do this: echo 65536 > /proc/sys/fs/inode-max Bill Mooney wrote: > > On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, Brian Phillips wrote: > > > Is there a limit to the number of files I can have in a single subdirectory? > > ... > > The reason I ask is because I've inherited an application that stores images > > in ten subdirectories (based on the HUNDREDTHS digit! So that 00301.tif and > > 87312.tif are in the "/usr/images/3" subdirectory). After six years of > > running there are now 29K+ images in the ten subdirectories... almost 3K > > images per subdirectory. > > I've had 30,000+ files in a single unix directory. > File access via fopen() was slow, and > 'ls' was a dog, but the files were there. > > Not sure if there is a limit, assuming there > are enough inodes for the partition as a whole. > > Bill > > _______________________________________________ > Linux mailing list > Linux@flux.org > http://www.flux.org/mailman/listinfo/linux -- struct Programmer/Analyst 'Danny Rathjens' {this.place = "MyCity.com";} "Believe nothing, merely because you have been told it, or because it is traditional, or because you have imagined it." -- Guatama Buddha From nick@metrolink.com Wed Jun 14 11:37:56 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: linux@flux.org Received: from www.metrolink.com (www.metrolink.com [192.153.117.229]) by mail.flux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3902A11EC7 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 11:37:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from static.metrolink.com (nick@static.metrolink.com [216.242.92.76]) by www.metrolink.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA11089 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 11:37:52 -0400 Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 11:37:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Nikola Miljanic To: linux@flux.org Subject: Re: [Linux] Pine Filter help please In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-admin@flux.org Errors-To: linux-admin@flux.org X-BeenThere: linux@flux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta2 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Linux Technical Discussion and Advocacy On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, dare wrote: > > > > I think you might want to use procmail instead. Here's some example > > procmail rules for the new lists (and a little extra you might find > > useful): > > > > My ISP gives me a shell account and if I wish to manage my mail on > their server my only option is pine. I would definitely prefer > procmail, but so far Pine has been adequate for my needs. Well, you could use something like 'fetchmail' to suck the mail from ISP to your box, and use 'procmail' on your box to filter mail. It's an option, at least. =============================================================================== Nikola Miljanic [Nick] | | Metro Link, Inc. nick@metrolink.com | | http://www.metrolink.com =============================================================================== From tim@timjones.com Wed Jun 14 11:58:08 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: linux@flux.org Received: from smtp-server.tampabay.rr.com (smtp-server1.tampabay.rr.com [24.92.1.13]) by mail.flux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BC4411EC7 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 11:58:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from timjones.com (dt051n84.tampabay.rr.com [24.92.163.132]) by smtp-server.tampabay.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA05508; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 11:58:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3947AB8C.ED27EE97@timjones.com> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 11:58:05 -0400 From: Tim Jones X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.13 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dean Benson Cc: linux@flux.org Subject: Re: [Linux] Color Printing (WinPrinters suck) References: <20000614141245.12600.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-admin@flux.org Errors-To: linux-admin@flux.org X-BeenThere: linux@flux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta2 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Linux Technical Discussion and Advocacy Dean Benson wrote: > I will have to check that out ... I wish I could afford the laser series -- > those are smart printers! :o) But you can't blame HP for producing > hardware that is inexpensive for Windows users. Oh, yeah? watch me... Cursed be ye, HP for making INCOMPATIBLE PRINTERS!!! That goes double for all the winmodem makers! AND for all the video card makers who name their products really juvenile names! > It's good that they are at > least catering to someone with cost effective solutions. I'm all for low-cost, but not at the cost of breaking compatibility. That's just cheesey. > I remember when > crappy color printers were running $300-$400 and now these same types are > under $100. The 722C was $299 when I bought it, just FYI. Tim From tim@timjones.com Wed Jun 14 12:07:59 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: linux@flux.org Received: from smtp-server.tampabay.rr.com (smtp-server1.tampabay.rr.com [24.92.1.13]) by mail.flux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A5A211EC7 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 12:07:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from timjones.com (dt051n84.tampabay.rr.com [24.92.163.132]) by smtp-server.tampabay.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA12582; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 12:07:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3947ADD8.77287216@timjones.com> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 12:07:52 -0400 From: Tim Jones X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.13 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Mooney Cc: Brian Phillips , linux@flux.org Subject: Re: [Linux] Linux file limits References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-admin@flux.org Errors-To: linux-admin@flux.org X-BeenThere: linux@flux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta2 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Linux Technical Discussion and Advocacy I have a large midwestern ISP as a client who had this problem with mail spool files. At their request, I modified sendmail, qpopper and imap to have user DIRECTORIES called /var/mail/user, and within each directory we'd store each message as a file, instead of one long file per user containing all messages. (Long story why, but it turned out to be a good move based on their POP3 traffic patterns). Under heavy load, it took forever to even search /var/mail for the correct user, so we ended up hashing the directory tree like this: /var/mail/u/s/e/user, where u/s/e was the first three letters of the user name. Again modifications to all three programs were required, but they're happily and quickly serving 800,000+ email accounts from a cluster of Intel-based FreeBSD boxes. My point being, the performance before the directory hashing sucked big time BEFORE we ran into hard limits - we never actually exceed them (so I don't happen to know what they are - besides it was FreeBSD), but the search times on the directory was killing us WITHOUT exceeding the limits. Tim Bill Mooney wrote: > On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, Brian Phillips wrote: > > > Is there a limit to the number of files I can have in a single subdirectory? > > ... > > The reason I ask is because I've inherited an application that stores images > > in ten subdirectories (based on the HUNDREDTHS digit! So that 00301.tif and > > 87312.tif are in the "/usr/images/3" subdirectory). After six years of > > running there are now 29K+ images in the ten subdirectories... almost 3K > > images per subdirectory. > > I've had 30,000+ files in a single unix directory. > File access via fopen() was slow, and > 'ls' was a dog, but the files were there. > > Not sure if there is a limit, assuming there > are enough inodes for the partition as a whole. > > Bill > > _______________________________________________ > Linux mailing list > Linux@flux.org > http://www.flux.org/mailman/listinfo/linux From kmathews@techcontrol.com Wed Jun 14 12:09:33 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: linux@flux.org Received: from noc.techcontrol.com (unknown [207.94.33.111]) by mail.flux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A101011ECD for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 12:09:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from techcontrol.com ([192.168.1.23]) by noc.techcontrol.com (8.9.3/8.9.0.Beta5) with ESMTP id MAA08499; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 12:07:55 -0400 Message-ID: <3947AD84.C333B1E0@techcontrol.com> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 12:06:29 -0400 From: kmathews X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tim Jones Cc: Dean Benson , linux@flux.org Subject: Re: [Linux] Color Printing (WinPrinters suck) References: <20000614141245.12600.qmail@hotmail.com> <3947AB8C.ED27EE97@timjones.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-admin@flux.org Errors-To: linux-admin@flux.org X-BeenThere: linux@flux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta2 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Linux Technical Discussion and Advocacy I had an HP IIp laser b/w printer for 11 years. It finally died (thanks kids). It was on a A/B switch for both linux/win and worked wonderful. It is sad to hear that HP isn't building printers like 'old reliable'. Kerry Tim Jones wrote: > > Dean Benson wrote: > > > I will have to check that out ... I wish I could afford the laser series -- > > those are smart printers! :o) But you can't blame HP for producing > > hardware that is inexpensive for Windows users. > > Oh, yeah? watch me... > > > Cursed be ye, HP for making INCOMPATIBLE PRINTERS!!! > That goes double for all the winmodem makers! > AND for all the video card makers who name their products really juvenile > names! > > > > It's good that they are at > > least catering to someone with cost effective solutions. > > I'm all for low-cost, but not at the cost of breaking compatibility. That's > just cheesey. > > > I remember when > > crappy color printers were running $300-$400 and now these same types are > > under $100. > > The 722C was $299 when I bought it, just FYI. > > Tim > > _______________________________________________ > Linux mailing list > Linux@flux.org > http://www.flux.org/mailman/listinfo/linux -- Kerry D. Mathews II From dare@netrox.net Wed Jun 14 12:26:55 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: linux@flux.org Received: from t-rex.netrox.net (odyssey.netrox.net [204.253.4.3]) by mail.flux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B0E211EC7 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 12:26:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from raptor.netrox.net (netrox.net [204.253.4.4]) by t-rex.netrox.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA17536; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 12:24:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 12:26:35 -0400 (EDT) From: dare To: Nikola Miljanic Cc: linux@flux.org Subject: Re: [Linux] Pine Filter help please In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-admin@flux.org Errors-To: linux-admin@flux.org X-BeenThere: linux@flux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta2 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Linux Technical Discussion and Advocacy > > > > > > > I think you might want to use procmail instead. Here's some example > > > procmail rules for the new lists (and a little extra you might find > > > useful): > > > > > > > My ISP gives me a shell account and if I wish to manage my mail on > > their server my only option is pine. I would definitely prefer > > procmail, but so far Pine has been adequate for my needs. > > Well, you could use something like 'fetchmail' to suck the mail from > ISP to your box, and use 'procmail' on your box to filter mail. It's > an option, at least. > I get the feeling that everyone is against Pine. In my situation it is quite convienent to leave my email on my ISP, that way I can access all my mail from anywhere that has telnet. But thanks for the suggestion! RD dare@netrox.net From chris@sethanon.metrolink.com Wed Jun 14 12:34:07 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: linux@flux.org Received: from sethanon.metrolink.com (sethanon.metrolink.com [216.242.92.81]) by mail.flux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2886411EC7 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 12:34:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200006141628.MAA07022@sethanon.metrolink.com> Subject: Re: [Linux] Linux file limits In-Reply-To: <3947ADD8.77287216@timjones.com> from Tim Jones at "Jun 14, 0 12:07:52 pm" To: tim@timjones.com (Tim Jones) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 12:28:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Bare Cc: bmooney@nntp.seflin.org, brianp@futuremetals.com, linux@flux.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-admin@flux.org Errors-To: linux-admin@flux.org X-BeenThere: linux@flux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta2 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Linux Technical Discussion and Advocacy > My point being, the performance before the directory hashing sucked big time > BEFORE we ran into hard limits - we never actually exceed them (so I don't happen Yes, the performance on a directory with lots of files get really bad long before you hit any real limits. I wrote a simple test program that adds files and then times how long it takes to walk through and read each file. The results on my system were: 1000, 138807.000000 2000, 205007.000000 3000, 419684.000000 4000, 2488533.000000 5000, 2817969.000000 6000, 3430691.000000 7000, 3933780.000000 8000, 4551534.000000 9000, 5181270.000000 10000, 5940066.000000 11000, 6338881.000000 12000, 7012740.000000 13000, 7586107.000000 14000, 8014721.000000 15000, 8641751.000000 16000, 9136671.000000 17000, 9736902.000000 18000,10253696.000000 19000,13386248.000000 The first number is files in the directory, the second is time in ms. As you can see, it goes to hell somewhere between 3 and 4 thousand files, but is almost linear up to 3000. If anyone's interested in this program, mail me offline and I'll send it to you so you can see how your system behaves. It would be really interesting to try this on reiserfs to compare. -- Chris Bare Metro Link Incorporated chris@metrolink.com http://www.metrolink.com/ From nicks@argate.net Wed Jun 14 12:38:25 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: linux@flux.org Received: from metellus.argate.net (dsl-64-34-99-5.telocity.com [64.34.99.5]) by mail.flux.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B583511ECA for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 12:38:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from metellus (metellus [192.168.111.88]) by metellus.argate.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B5E787A02 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 12:38:19 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 12:38:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Nick Seidenman X-Sender: nicks@metellus Reply-To: Nick Seidenman To: linux@flux.org Subject: Re: [Linux] Pine Filter help please In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-admin@flux.org Errors-To: linux-admin@flux.org X-BeenThere: linux@flux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta2 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Linux Technical Discussion and Advocacy On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, dare wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I think you might want to use procmail instead. Here's some example > > > > procmail rules for the new lists (and a little extra you might find > > > > useful): > > > > > > > > > > My ISP gives me a shell account and if I wish to manage my mail on > > > their server my only option is pine. I would definitely prefer > > > procmail, but so far Pine has been adequate for my needs. > > > > Well, you could use something like 'fetchmail' to suck the mail from > > ISP to your box, and use 'procmail' on your box to filter mail. It's > > an option, at least. > > > > I get the feeling that everyone is against Pine. In my situation it is > quite convienent to leave my email on my ISP, that way I can access all > my mail from anywhere that has telnet. But thanks for the suggestion! Au contraire, mon Dare! I've used it for years, and still do. But the input filters in pine are not designed for the sort of filtering you're doing. (Unless they've added some new feature(s) I'm not aware of. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Nick Seidenman, CISSP | "Ugly programs are like ugly Senior Security Consultant | suspension bridges: they're much Hyperon, Inc. | more liable to collapse than www.hyperon.com | pretty ones." -Eric Raymond From scharkalvin@yahoo.com Wed Jun 14 13:02:37 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: linux@flux.org Received: from web2103.mail.yahoo.com (web2103.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.68.247]) by mail.flux.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2B92211EC7 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 13:02:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 11157 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Jun 2000 17:02:28 -0000 Message-ID: <20000614170228.11156.qmail@web2103.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.69.124.128] by web2103.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 10:02:28 PDT Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 10:02:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Kenneth Scharf Subject: Re: [Linux] Color Printing (WinPrinters suck) To: kmathews , Tim Jones Cc: Dean Benson , linux@flux.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: linux-admin@flux.org Errors-To: linux-admin@flux.org X-BeenThere: linux@flux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta2 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Linux Technical Discussion and Advocacy I am currently using an HP IIID. I had first bought an HP III, but then discovered that the model IIID would print on both sides of the paper. So now my wife is using the III. I just found a postscript cartridge for the IIID, so now I can retire ghostscript. Cost of toner for these guys is about 10% of what black ink goes for on the inkjet (factoring in how many sheets it will print on). Also parts are available and cheap so you can keep them going for years. Unless you REALLY need color, one of these old lasers is the ONLY way to fly. --- kmathews wrote: > I had an HP IIp laser b/w printer for 11 years. > It finally died (thanks kids). It was on a A/B > switch for both linux/win and worked wonderful. > > It is sad to hear that HP isn't building printers > like > 'old reliable'. > > Kerry > > Tim Jones wrote: > > > > Dean Benson wrote: > > > > > I will have to check that out ... I wish I could > afford the laser series -- > > > those are smart printers! :o) But you can't > blame HP for producing > > > hardware that is inexpensive for Windows users. > > > > Oh, yeah? watch me... > > > > > > Cursed be ye, HP for making INCOMPATIBLE > PRINTERS!!! > > That goes double for all the winmodem makers! > > AND for all the video card makers who name > their products really juvenile > > names! > > > > > > > It's good that they are at > > > least catering to someone with cost effective > solutions. > > > > I'm all for low-cost, but not at the cost of > breaking compatibility. That's > > just cheesey. > > > > > I remember when > > > crappy color printers were running $300-$400 and > now these same types are > > > under $100. > > > > The 722C was $299 when I bought it, just FYI. > > > > Tim > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Linux mailing list > > Linux@flux.org > > http://www.flux.org/mailman/listinfo/linux > > -- > > Kerry D. Mathews II > > _______________________________________________ > Linux mailing list > Linux@flux.org > http://www.flux.org/mailman/listinfo/linux ===== Amateur Radio, when all else fails! http://www.qsl.net/wa2mze Debian Gnu Linux, Live Free or ..... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com From nick@metrolink.com Wed Jun 14 13:44:55 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: linux@flux.org Received: from www.metrolink.com (www.metrolink.com [192.153.117.229]) by mail.flux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 962BC11EC7 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 13:44:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from static.metrolink.com (nick@static.metrolink.com [216.242.92.76]) by www.metrolink.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA15344 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 13:44:51 -0400 Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 13:44:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Nikola Miljanic To: linux@flux.org Subject: Re: [Linux] Pine Filter help please In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-admin@flux.org Errors-To: linux-admin@flux.org X-BeenThere: linux@flux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta2 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Linux Technical Discussion and Advocacy On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, dare wrote: > > > > I think you might want to use procmail instead. Here's some example > > > > procmail rules for the new lists (and a little extra you might find > > > > useful): > > > > > > > > > > My ISP gives me a shell account and if I wish to manage my mail on > > > their server my only option is pine. I would definitely prefer > > > procmail, but so far Pine has been adequate for my needs. > > > > Well, you could use something like 'fetchmail' to suck the mail from > > ISP to your box, and use 'procmail' on your box to filter mail. It's > > an option, at least. > > > > I get the feeling that everyone is against Pine. In my situation it is > quite convienent to leave my email on my ISP, that way I can access all > my mail from anywhere that has telnet. But thanks for the suggestion! I don't know where you get this from. I've been using Pine *exclusively* for seven years now, and I don't plan to switch anytime soon. I just like to use the best tool for the job, and for mail filtering my choice is procmail. However, if you want to use Pine, you don't have to apologize to anyone for it. It's just that it seems no one (or very few people) on this list is using Pine for filtering mail. :-( Good luck! =============================================================================== Nikola Miljanic [Nick] | | Metro Link, Inc. nick@metrolink.com | | http://www.metrolink.com =============================================================================== From tim@timjones.com Wed Jun 14 13:51:55 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: linux@flux.org Received: from smtp-server.tampabay.rr.com (smtp-server1.tampabay.rr.com [24.92.1.13]) by mail.flux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3957211EC9 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 13:51:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from timjones.com (dt051n84.tampabay.rr.com [24.92.163.132]) by smtp-server.tampabay.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA16422; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 13:51:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3947C635.452C5F71@timjones.com> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 13:51:49 -0400 From: Tim Jones X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.13 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nikola Miljanic , linux@flux.org Subject: Re: [Linux] Re: Sound card compatibility References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-admin@flux.org Errors-To: linux-admin@flux.org X-BeenThere: linux@flux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta2 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Linux Technical Discussion and Advocacy Nikola Miljanic wrote: > On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, Tim Jones wrote: > > > It's a moot point now, but at the time I was tasked with trying to > > replicate a SIGPIPE crash in liveice (streaming to a shoutcast server) > > - one of my colleagues in Kansas City was experiencing this with a > > Soundblaster, and the rest of the team (including me on an Ensoniq 1371) > > couldn't replicate it. I was trying to re-create his environment by > > buying the card, but we've since decided to just use other cards. > > Oh, OK. From your original message it looked like you were looking for a > good card which was well supported under Linux. Sorry for the confusion. Well, I don't need that particular old Soundblaster anymore, since we're using other cards for the liveice project. My only current problem with audio cards is finding one that will work in my new system: Athlon 800mhz, 256M RAM, Adaptec 29160 SCSI card (64-bit), two Matrox Millenium cards, an 18.2G SCSI disk, plus SCSI CD-RW. I've tried 2 es1371's and an es1370 in it, and every time I try to play audio, the whole system freezes up for 2 to 30 seconds... no rhyme or reason. I've arrived at the conclusion that the problem is caused by something else in my system (probablythe fact the 64-bit SCSI card is in a 32-bit PCI slot - Athlon mobos apparently never come with 64-bit slots). Also, all these sound cards work fine in my K6-2/380 Linux system. Any ideas gang? I use my K6-2 system for all my audio work now (on an es1371), but I'd love to get the Athlon 800 doing it too! Tim From nick@metrolink.com Wed Jun 14 14:13:52 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: linux@flux.org Received: from www.metrolink.com (www.metrolink.com [192.153.117.229]) by mail.flux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED0DA11EC9 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 14:13:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from static.metrolink.com (nick@static.metrolink.com [216.242.92.76]) by www.metrolink.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA16469 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 14:13:49 -0400 Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 14:13:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Nikola Miljanic Cc: linux@flux.org Subject: Re: [Linux] Re: Sound card compatibility In-Reply-To: <3947C635.452C5F71@timjones.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-admin@flux.org Errors-To: linux-admin@flux.org X-BeenThere: linux@flux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta2 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Linux Technical Discussion and Advocacy On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, Tim Jones wrote: > My only current problem with audio cards is finding one that will work in > my new system: Athlon 800mhz, 256M RAM, Adaptec 29160 SCSI card (64-bit), > two Matrox Millenium cards, an 18.2G SCSI disk, plus SCSI CD-RW. I've > tried 2 es1371's and an es1370 in it, and every time I try to play audio, > the whole system freezes up for 2 to 30 seconds... no rhyme or reason. > I've arrived at the conclusion that the problem is caused by something > else in my system (probablythe fact the 64-bit SCSI card is in a 32-bit > PCI slot - Athlon mobos apparently never come with 64-bit slots). Also, > all these sound cards work fine in my K6-2/380 Linux system. > > Any ideas gang? I use my K6-2 system for all my audio work now (on an > es1371), but I'd love to get the Athlon 800 doing it too! Interesting. I have two similar setups: Athlon 650, 128MB, 30GB IDE, #9 Revolution IV (to go with SGI 1600SW flatpanel) and an SB Live!. Works without a problem. There is an issue where heavy disk access slows the box down -- but that's an IDE problem. Athlon 700, 128MB, 18GB U2W SCSI (Adaptec), GeForce 256, and SB Live!. Again, no problems whatsoever. Perhaps you should try disabling PCI Retries for the Matrox cards -- retries will really hog the PCI bus causing everything else to be put on a backburner. What version of X are you using? =============================================================================== Nikola Miljanic [Nick] | | Metro Link, Inc. nick@metrolink.com | | http://www.metrolink.com =============================================================================== From Ernest.Gerard@tigerdirect.com Wed Jun 14 14:51:33 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: linux@flux.org Received: from magellan.tigerdirect.com (unknown [199.181.77.93]) by mail.flux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F56611EC9 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 14:51:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by MAGELLAN with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 14:51:29 -0400 Message-ID: <4C77148B2232D3118CA700A0C9DCF8804C7B6E@MAGELLAN> From: Ernest Gerard To: "'linux@flux.org'" Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 14:51:27 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: [Linux] SuSE 6.4 plus Athlon (First Atlon project) Sender: linux-admin@flux.org Errors-To: linux-admin@flux.org X-BeenThere: linux@flux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta2 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Linux Technical Discussion and Advocacy I plan on building a Athlon system running SuSE 6.4. I heard that the Athlons are rocking really good..... Any feedback on that.. Many Thanks, Ernest Antonio Gerard Tiger Direct Corporate Sales Toll Free 888-378-4437 Toll Free fax 888-708-4437 efax: 208-330-4676 Email: Ernest.Gerard@tigerdirect.com ICQ#57061173 From bensode@hotmail.com Wed Jun 14 15:16:09 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: linux@flux.org Received: from hotmail.com (f58.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.58]) by mail.flux.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D8DE011EC9 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 15:16:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 1540 invoked by uid 0); 14 Jun 2000 19:16:06 -0000 Message-ID: <20000614191606.1539.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.244.171.226 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 12:16:06 PDT X-Originating-IP: [208.244.171.226] From: "Dean Benson" To: kmathews@techcontrol.com, tim@timjones.com Cc: bensode@hotmail.com, linux@flux.org Subject: Re: [Linux] Color Printing (WinPrinters suck) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 15:16:06 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: linux-admin@flux.org Errors-To: linux-admin@flux.org X-BeenThere: linux@flux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta2 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Linux Technical Discussion and Advocacy They are still building them like that, but the absolute low-end "Deskjet" series are just that ... the Yugo of printers. They are nothing but plastic and weigh all of about 2 pounds (with paper loaded! heh heh). Dean >From: kmathews >To: Tim Jones >CC: Dean Benson , linux@flux.org >Subject: Re: [Linux] Color Printing (WinPrinters suck) >Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 12:06:29 -0400 > > I had an HP IIp laser b/w printer for 11 years. > It finally died (thanks kids). It was on a A/B > switch for both linux/win and worked wonderful. > >It is sad to hear that HP isn't building printers like > 'old reliable'. > >Kerry > >Tim Jones wrote: > > > > Dean Benson wrote: > > > > > I will have to check that out ... I wish I could afford the laser >series -- > > > those are smart printers! :o) But you can't blame HP for producing > > > hardware that is inexpensive for Windows users. > > > > Oh, yeah? watch me... > > > > > > Cursed be ye, HP for making INCOMPATIBLE PRINTERS!!! > > That goes double for all the winmodem makers! > > AND for all the video card makers who name their products really >juvenile > > names! > > > > > > > It's good that they are at > > > least catering to someone with cost effective solutions. > > > > I'm all for low-cost, but not at the cost of breaking compatibility. >That's > > just cheesey. > > > > > I remember when > > > crappy color printers were running $300-$400 and now these same types >are > > > under $100. > > > > The 722C was $299 when I bought it, just FYI. > > > > Tim > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Linux mailing list > > Linux@flux.org > > http://www.flux.org/mailman/listinfo/linux > >-- > >Kerry D. Mathews II ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From bogosort@flashmail.com Wed Jun 14 15:35:51 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: linux@flux.org Received: from mail-1.sjc.telocity.net (mail-1.sjc.telocity.net [216.227.56.41]) by mail.flux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE32711EC9 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 15:35:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pythagoras (dsl-64-34-101-173.telocity.com [64.34.101.173]) by mail-1.sjc.telocity.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA20069 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 12:34:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <005701bfd637$8e89bcc0$ad652240@pythagoras> From: "Flavored UNIX" To: References: Subject: Re: [Linux] Pine Filter help please Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 15:34:27 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: linux-admin@flux.org Errors-To: linux-admin@flux.org X-BeenThere: linux@flux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta2 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Linux Technical Discussion and Advocacy From: dare : : I get the feeling that everyone is against Pine. In my situation it is : quite convienent to leave my email on my ISP, that way I can access all : my mail from anywhere that has telnet. But thanks for the suggestion! : Actually, we *love* Pine. As soon as someone (me?) hacks auto-accounts into it, Pine will rule the world. As for filtering, this should get you going: http://www.washington.edu/pine/tech-notes.4.21/config.html#filter-config javier From kpendle1@tampabay.rr.com Wed Jun 14 16:00:17 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: linux@flux.org Received: from smtp-server.tampabay.rr.com (smtp-server1.tampabay.rr.com [24.92.1.13]) by mail.flux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D349011EC9 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 16:00:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tampabay.rr.com (IDENT:les@242827hfc151.tampabay.rr.com [24.28.27.151]) by smtp-server.tampabay.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA19780 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 16:00:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3947E45A.E50BBF7E@tampabay.rr.com> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 16:00:26 -0400 From: Les Pendleton X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux@flux.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Linux] Why is everything so complicated!! Sender: linux-admin@flux.org Errors-To: linux-admin@flux.org X-BeenThere: linux@flux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta2 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Linux Technical Discussion and Advocacy I think I might just be a complete moron, but I can't get jack to work on my system (All Apache related). I've gone through 2 different books and still can't figure out anything. Here were all the files reside for Apache [les cgi-bin]# find / -name httpd -print /etc/rc.d/init.d/httpd /etc/httpd /var/log/httpd /var/lock/subsys/httpd /var/cache/httpd /home/httpd /usr/sbin/httpd First: I wanted to see what modules are running so I typed httpd -l to try out the command, I got a reply command not found... I figured that the path were the executable resides wasn't set, so I cd into every directory which I felt might might contain that binary and tried it again, still no luck. Note: the server is up and running, you can see my test page -- http://242827hfc151.tampabay.rr.com/Test/MENU.htm -- I can't guarantee that the server will be up.. (and with my luck I have an open door to my entire system, who knows). I used Netscape's rpm version for Apache and installed it as follows: rpm -U {filename}. seemed to be ok. I even Managed to update BIND without any problems (or were there, who knows). So basically the Apache Sever appears to be working, but is it fully functional which leads to my second question. File Permissions and Java Applets (which i asked about earlier and received 1 reply), which had some good ideas that seemed very logical, but then again I may be a moron as I stated previously.... the response stated the following: Basically I was told to look in the httpd.conf file and see what groups and users had the rights to execute stuff, and here's what I found: # User/Group: The name (or #number) of the user/group to run httpd as. # . On SCO (ODT 3) use "User nouser" and "Group nogroup". # . On HPUX you may not be able to use shared memory as nobody, and the # suggested workaround is to create a user www and use that user. # NOTE that some kernels refuse to setgid(Group) or semctl(IPC_SET) # when the value of (unsigned)Group is above 60000; # don't use Group nobody on these systems! # User nobody Group nobody Using that information i went into the directory where my html file are and changed the owner and group to nobody for all the files that were used with the applet: -rwxr-xr-x 1 nobody nobody 17445 Jun 9 11:58 font.vac -rwxr-xr-x 1 nobody nobody 3076 Jun 9 11:58 text.class -rwxrwxr-x 1 nobody nobody 10975 Jun 9 11:58 text3d.class however, I did not change anything on the htm file (by the way all of the files in my html directory have the following permissions, is this even correct? It seems to work -- doesn't mean it's correct. -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3944 Jun 13 17:46 MENU.htm And not surprisingly it still doesn't work. I have no clue on how to get the applet to work, I thought that Applets were run on the client side, not on the server --- again I could be incorrect. Just for the hell of it I typed group to see what groups I have and this is what resulted: [root html]# groups root bin daemon sys adm disk wheel This seems kind of odd --- nobody isn't listed, does this mean it isn't a group or is it just a special group that doesn't show up on this command... When I did the command: ps -ef|grep httpd this is what follows: root 585 1 0 12:05 ? 00:00:00 httpd nobody 589 585 0 12:05 ? 00:00:00 httpd nobody 590 585 0 12:05 ? 00:00:00 httpd nobody 591 585 0 12:05 ? 00:00:00 httpd nobody 592 585 0 12:05 ? 00:00:00 httpd nobody 593 585 0 12:05 ? 00:00:00 httpd nobody 594 585 0 12:05 ? 00:00:00 httpd nobody 600 585 0 12:05 ? 00:00:00 httpd nobody 601 585 0 12:05 ? 00:00:00 httpd Does this look correct? Why can't I get the applet running? One last Question from el moron.... CGI ...... fun fun. I setup a basic perl program called mailer.pl, which parses stuff created from a form, here's the link: http://242827hfc151.tampabay.rr.com/cgi_test.html Here's the permissions for the perl file: -rwxr-xr-x 1 nobody nobody 616 Jun 14 15:27 mailer.pl Also, my alias for /cgi-bin/ should be correct: This is what is listed in the httpd.conf file: ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ "/home/httpd/cgi-bin/" Once I submit the info typed on the web page I got the following error in my error_log: [Wed Jun 14 15:11:49 2000] [error] (8)Exec format error: exec of /home/httpd/cgi-bin/mailer.pl failed [Wed Jun 14 15:11:49 2000] [error] [client 24.28.27.151] Premature end of script headers: /home/httpd/cgi-bin/mailer.pl Here is the perl code: #/usr/bin/perl use CGI qw(:standard); print header(), start_html( "Mail from results" ),\ h1( "Mail from results" ); my $to = parse( "to" ); my $from = parse( "from" ); my $subject = parse( "subject" ); my $body = parse( "body" ); open (MAIL, "|/var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject $to") || die "

Error: Couldn't execute qmail. \n"; print MAIL "To: $to\n"; print MAIL "From: $from\n"; print MAIL "subject: $subject\n\n"; print MAIL "$body\m"; close MAIL; print p( "All right, mailed the following to $to:" ); print p( "

\nTo: $to\nFrom: $from\nsubject:
$subject\n\n$body\n
); print end_html(); One comment about the code, I recently compiled and configured qmail, what a pain for a novice -- and this is one of those I think it's working but I really have no clue. Keep in mind that this perl script was copied from a book and I made one change: The book said to use open (MAIL, "|/usr/lib/sendmail $to") || die "

Error: Couldn't execute qmail. \n"; and i used Becuase the book said to modify code if you use a different mail system -- I don't know if it's right. open (MAIL, "|/var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject $to") || die "

Error: Couldn't execute qmail. \n"; I also noticed in my httpd.conf file that the Module for perl was commented out, Here's a list of the modules in listed in the file: Do I need to un-comment this? # Note: The order is which modules are loaded is important. Don't change # the order below without expert advice. # # Example: # LoadModule foo_module modules/mod_foo.so #LoadModule mmap_static_module modules/mod_mmap_static.so LoadModule vhost_alias_module modules/mod_vhost_alias.so LoadModule env_module modules/mod_env.so LoadModule config_log_module modules/mod_log_config.so LoadModule agent_log_module modules/mod_log_agent.so LoadModule referer_log_module modules/mod_log_referer.so #LoadModule mime_magic_module modules/mod_mime_magic.so LoadModule mime_module modules/mod_mime.so LoadModule negotiation_module modules/mod_negotiation.so LoadModule status_module modules/mod_status.so LoadModule info_module modules/mod_info.so LoadModule includes_module modules/mod_include.so LoadModule autoindex_module modules/mod_autoindex.so LoadModule dir_module modules/mod_dir.so LoadModule cgi_module modules/mod_cgi.so LoadModule asis_module modules/mod_asis.so LoadModule imap_module modules/mod_imap.so LoadModule action_module modules/mod_actions.so #LoadModule speling_module modules/mod_speling.so LoadModule userdir_module modules/mod_userdir.so LoadModule alias_module modules/mod_alias.so LoadModule rewrite_module modules/mod_rewrite.so LoadModule access_module modules/mod_access.so LoadModule auth_module modules/mod_auth.so LoadModule anon_auth_module modules/mod_auth_anon.so LoadModule db_auth_module modules/mod_auth_db.so LoadModule digest_module modules/mod_digest.so LoadModule proxy_module modules/libproxy.so #LoadModule cern_meta_module modules/mod_cern_meta.so #LoadModule cern_meta_module modules/mod_cern_meta.so LoadModule expires_module modules/mod_expires.so LoadModule headers_module modules/mod_headers.so LoadModule usertrack_module modules/mod_usertrack.so #LoadModule example_module modules/mod_example.so #LoadModule unique_id_module modules/mod_unique_id.so LoadModule setenvif_module modules/mod_setenvif.so #LoadModule bandwidth_module modules/mod_bandwidth.so #LoadModule put_module modules/mod_put.so # Extra Modules #LoadModule perl_module modules/libperl.so #LoadModule php_module modules/mod_php.so #LoadModule php3_module modules/libphp3.so # Reconstruction of the complete module list from all available modules # (static and shared ones) to achieve correct module execution order. # [WHENEVER YOU CHANGE THE LOADMODULE SECTION ABOVE UPDATE THIS, TOO] ClearModuleList #AddModule mod_mmap_static.c AddModule mod_vhost_alias.c AddModule mod_env.c AddModule mod_log_config.c AddModule mod_log_agent.c AddModule mod_log_referer.c #AddModule mod_mime_magic.c AddModule mod_mime.c AddModule mod_negotiation.c AddModule mod_status.c AddModule mod_info.c AddModule mod_include.c AddModule mod_autoindex.c AddModule mod_dir.c AddModule mod_cgi.c AddModule mod_asis.c AddModule mod_imap.c AddModule mod_actions.c #AddModule mod_speling.c AddModule mod_userdir.c AddModule mod_alias.c AddModule mod_rewrite.c AddModule mod_access.c AddModule mod_auth.c AddModule mod_auth_anon.c AddModule mod_auth_db.c AddModule mod_digest.c AddModule mod_proxy.c #AddModule mod_cern_meta.c #AddModule mod_cern_meta.c AddModule mod_expires.c AddModule mod_headers.c AddModule mod_usertrack.c #AddModule mod_example.c #AddModule mod_unique_id.c AddModule mod_so.c AddModule mod_setenvif.c #AddModule mod_bandwidth.c #AddModule mod_put.c # Extra Modules #AddModule mod_perl.c #AddModule mod_php.c #AddModule mod_php3.c I wouls appreciate any help , I'm getting sick of playing with what shouls very trivial stufff.... Somebody shouls rith a book that answers basic questions in a straight forward way like to get an CGI-script to work for your first time do this .... you'll make a million. Les Pendleton From bensode@hotmail.com Wed Jun 14 16:08:55 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: linux@flux.org Received: from hotmail.com (f103.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.103]) by mail.flux.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7F5CF11EC9 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 16:08:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 78532 invoked by uid 0); 14 Jun 2000 20:08:52 -0000 Message-ID: <20000614200852.78531.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.244.171.226 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 13:08:52 PDT X-Originating-IP: [208.244.171.226] From: "Dean Benson" To: linux@flux.org Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 16:08:52 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: [Linux] MySql Admin Sender: linux-admin@flux.org Errors-To: linux-admin@flux.org X-BeenThere: linux@flux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta2 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Linux Technical Discussion and Advocacy I am getting frustrated with MySQL ... where's the file that holds the administration username and password? I thought I had set it to root but apparently that's not the case ... any help would be appreciated :o) Dean ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From bensode@hotmail.com Wed Jun 14 16:13:51 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: linux@flux.org Received: from hotmail.com (f122.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.122]) by mail.flux.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CF0DA11EC9 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 16:13:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 38489 invoked by uid 0); 14 Jun 2000 20:13:48 -0000 Message-ID: <20000614201348.38488.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.244.171.226 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 13:13:48 PDT X-Originating-IP: [208.244.171.226] From: "Dean Benson" To: linux@flux.org Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 16:13:48 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Subject: [Linux] MySQL Admin -- Fixed Sender: linux-admin@flux.org Errors-To: linux-admin@flux.org X-BeenThere: linux@flux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta2 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Linux Technical Discussion and Advocacy Duh NM -- I found it via mysqladmin password command :o) Dean ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From kerryb@blalock1.com Wed Jun 14 16:13:57 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: linux@flux.org Received: from blalock1.com (dlci70.icsfm.com [207.151.140.70]) by mail.flux.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0768811ED5 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 16:13:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kerryb.k1domain ([64.34.101.201]) by pongo.pongo.org ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 13:13:49 -0800 Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 16:07:29 -0400 (EDT) From: kerryb X-Sender: kerryb@kerryb.k1domain To: dare Cc: Nikola Miljanic , linux@flux.org Subject: Re: [Linux] Pine Filter help please In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-admin@flux.org Errors-To: linux-admin@flux.org X-BeenThere: linux@flux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta2 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Linux Technical Discussion and Advocacy On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, dare wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I think you might want to use procmail instead. Here's some example > > > > procmail rules for the new lists (and a little extra you might find > > > > useful): > > > > > > > > > > My ISP gives me a shell account and if I wish to manage my mail on > > > their server my only option is pine. I would definitely prefer > > > procmail, but so far Pine has been adequate for my needs. > > > > Well, you could use something like 'fetchmail' to suck the mail from > > ISP to your box, and use 'procmail' on your box to filter mail. It's > > an option, at least. > > > > I get the feeling that everyone is against Pine. In my situation it is > quite convienent to leave my email on my ISP, that way I can access all > my mail from anywhere that has telnet. But thanks for the suggestion! > > RD > dare@netrox.net I am using pine and love it! I also use fetchmail to bring the mail in, and read it with pine. Are you saying you are using only pine to just read from ISP? Seems like that would fill your limit after a while with a few active mail list. Do you know if you can set pine up to filter mail, and if so, can it be set to unload the mail from ISP server, and discard it on home box? Kerry B > > > _______________________________________________ > Linux mailing list > Linux@flux.org > http://www.flux.org/mailman/listinfo/linux > reply to: blalock@ieee.org From herman@honordesign.com Wed Jun 14 17:44:58 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: linux@flux.org Received: from mail-1.sjc.telocity.net (mail-1.sjc.telocity.net [216.227.56.41]) by mail.flux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85CB411ED5 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 17:44:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from honordesign.com (dsl-64-34-101-117.telocity.com [64.34.101.117]) by mail-1.sjc.telocity.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA29584; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 13:36:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3947ED7F.1008256A@honordesign.com> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 16:39:27 -0400 From: herman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.14-15mdk i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dean Benson Cc: linux@flux.org Subject: Re: [Linux] Color Printing References: <20000613211339.18343.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-admin@flux.org Errors-To: linux-admin@flux.org X-BeenThere: linux@flux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta2 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Linux Technical Discussion and Advocacy Aladdin Ghostscript 6.01 is the latest version. Check out the list and types of printers available. The software is free, but belongs to Aladdin, and as such is not distributed with Suse, RedHat, etc. The GNU version is older and has less features. Version 6.01 can be downloaded and installed for free. There is a file called devices.htm included with the distribution which has the following table of contents. I could not find it on the web, so I am including parts below that may help. I have not installed this version yet, but it appears to feature many more printers than are listed in web documents. Regards, Herman ___Win Printer___ "This section was written by Russell Lang, the author of Ghostscript's MS Windows-specific printer driver, and updated by Pierre Arnaud, the current maintainer. The mswinpr2 device uses MS Windows printer drivers, and thus should work with any printer with device-independent bitmap (DIB) raster capabilities. The printer resolution cannot be selected directly using PostScript commands from Ghostscript: use the printer setup in the Control Panel instead. It is however possible to specify a maximum resolution for the printed document ..." __Additionally...___ "H-P 8xx, 1100, and 1600 color inkjet printers This section, written by Uli Wortmann , deals with the DeskJet 670, 690, 850, 855, 870, 890, 1100, and 1600. Drivers contained in gdevcd8.c The source module gdevcd8.c contains four generic drivers: cdj670 HP DeskJet 670 and 690 cdj850 HP DeskJet 850, 855, 870, and 1100 cdj890 HP DeskJet 890 cdj1600 HP DeskJet 1600 " ___Also____ "H-P 812, 815, 832, 880, 882, 895, and 970 color inkjet printers This section, written by Matthew Gelhaus , deals with the DeskJet 812, 815, 832, 880, 882, 895, and 970. This is a modified version of the HP8xx driver written by Uli Wortmann. More information and download are available at http://www.proaxis.com/~mgelhaus/linux/software/hp880c/hp880c.html. Drivers contained in gdevcd8.c The source module gdevcd8.c contains one generic driver: cdj880 HP DeskJet 812, 815, 832, 880, 882, 895, and 970 " ---------------------------------------------------------------- ___Below is the table of contents from the Devices.htm file____ Details of Ghostscript output devices Table of contents Notes on measurements MS Windows printers JPEG file format (JFIF) H-P 8xx, 1100, and 1600 color inkjet printers Drivers contained in gdevcd8.c Further documentation H-P 812, 815, 832, 880, 882, 895, and 970 color inkjet printers Drivers contained in gdevcd8.c Further documentation Other H-P color inkjet printers Drivers contained in gdevcdj.c Default paper size Deskjet physical limits Printer properties (command-line parameters) Bits per pixel Deskjet properties Paintjet XL300 / Paintjet XL properties Gamma correction HP's resolution-enhanced mode for Inkjet printers General tips Canon BubbleJet (BJC) printers History Configuring and building the BJC drivers Modify values in gdevbjc.h CMYK-to-RGB color conversion Vertical centering of the printable area Page margins Makefile and compilation Use of the drivers Supported Options and Defaults Device information Hardware margins PostScript printer description (PPD) files Customizing the PPD files How to report problems Acknowledgements Epson Stylus color printer (see also uniprint) Usage Options Application note and FAQ Support for A3 paper Margins, PageSize Stylus Color II / IIs and 1500 Recommendations Color dithering experiments with gdevstc 1.21 Color transformation ColorAdjustMatrix RGB / CMYK coding and transfer, and BitsPerPixel What is weaving? Print mode parameters Unidirectional Microweave, noWeave and OutputCode=deltarow Model Bugs and pitfalls Tests The various OutputCodes Printing time related to other options Acknowledgments uniprint, a flexible unified printer driver The state of this driver Notes on uniprint's background Godzilla's guide to the creation of Unified Printer Parameter (.upp) files All parameters in brief uniprint's Roll of Honor Sun SPARCprinter Installation Problems Apple dot matrix printer Dean Benson wrote: > > Anyone have success with the HP Deskjet 810C to print color? I have to date > not been able to get color on SuSE 6.4 or 6.3. I set the printer using > YaST2 and I am unsure of the print method. What do I need to post here as > far as config files for diagnosis if it is a problem on my setup as opposed > to hardware? > > Dean > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Linux mailing list > Linux@flux.org > http://www.flux.org/mailman/listinfo/linux From herman@honordesign.com Wed Jun 14 17:50:11 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: linux@flux.org Received: from mail-2.sjc.telocity.net (mail-2.sjc.telocity.net [216.227.56.42]) by mail.flux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AB3C11ED5 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 17:50:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from honordesign.com (dsl-64-34-101-117.telocity.com [64.34.101.117]) by mail-2.sjc.telocity.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA05769 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 14:08:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3947F519.45EEF63D@honordesign.com> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 17:11:53 -0400 From: herman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.14-15mdk i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux@flux.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Linux] Samba print help? Sender: linux-admin@flux.org Errors-To: linux-admin@flux.org X-BeenThere: linux@flux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta2 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Linux Technical Discussion and Advocacy Hello all, I can't get my '95 computer to print through Samba. I have succeeded with this before, but this time I am stumped. I need someone to tell me how to get a log so I can trace where the temporary print file is going or maybe just tell me what I am doing wrong. Maybe there is some password or file ownership problem...how can I detect this? Here's the situation: Win95 machine name lifestar, user herman, password abcd1234. Samba machine name monster. "lp" shows up on the '95 box and is selected as printer. The device is Apple LaserWriter on \\monster\lp. I load up Notepad, type some lines, and print to the pri